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Jonsan 09-09-2005 09:50 AM

4\'s on the Button
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, $6 Turbo, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) converter

UTG (t1480)
MP (t3020)
CO (t3720)
Hero (t1505)
SB (t1900)
BB (t1875)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?</font>

Nicholasp27 09-09-2005 10:05 AM

Re: 4\'s on the Button
 
if u had a few less chips, easy push
if u had a few more chips, eash fold

with this stack, it's more your discretion...i'd fold because blinds will only add 15% to your stack and the range that calls you will hurt you

44 is a dog to any 2 suited above it, crushed by higher pps, tied with 1-gaps above it, slight dog to higher connectors, etc

so u really really want them to fold here...how tight are they?

i have a feeling if u put this into sngpt, it'd be slightly + for t/a opps and - for l/m opps

if u were sb it'd be easier to call as well

unreal_nh 09-09-2005 10:23 AM

Re: 4\'s on the Button
 
push unless you have reason to believe they have a maniacle calling range.

is maniacle a word? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

09-09-2005 10:24 AM

Re: 4\'s on the Button
 
[ QUOTE ]
is maniacle a word? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. But it's spelled maniacal.

unreal_nh 09-09-2005 10:25 AM

Re: 4\'s on the Button
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
is maniacle a word? [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes. But it's spelled maniacal.

[/ QUOTE ]

oh thanks [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

downtown 09-09-2005 10:31 AM

Re: 4\'s on the Button
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, $6 Turbo, Big Blind is t150 (6 handed) converter

UTG (t1480)
MP (t3020)
CO (t3720)
Hero (t1505)
SB (t1900)
BB (t1875)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero?</font>

[/ QUOTE ]

I would fold, because I think in a $6 tourney, the calling range of the BB and SB would be too large to make pushing profitable, and your stack is still healthy at 10BB.

wildzer0 09-09-2005 10:42 AM

Re: 4\'s on the Button
 
This is definitely one of those "it depends" situations. What kind of calling range do the SB and BB have. If they are typical $6 maniacs who will call with nearly any two, then a fold here is probably in order. If they're a little tighter, push.

J-Lo 09-09-2005 11:01 PM

Re: 4\'s on the Button
 
i CANNOT believe people are recomending folding... PUSH!!!

ps BATCH

bones 09-09-2005 11:07 PM

Re: 4\'s on the Button
 
I think the key to this hand is that it's a turbo, so blinds rise faster than normal. I think this turns it into a fairly clear push.


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