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kgrad5 07-25-2005 11:54 AM

did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
hey guys, late in a sng and im one of the larger stacks

***** Hand History for Game 2421453431 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:14244193 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Monday, July 25, 14:41:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 39776 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: panther656 ( $700 )
Seat 5: bogeyman999 ( $876 )
Seat 10: DontGoTILT ( $1340 )
Seat 4: kgrad55 ( $1522 )
Seat 3: MRAU2u ( $2780 )
Seat 8: Ironsam ( $782 )
Trny:14244193 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to kgrad55 [ Kd Jc ]
Ironsam calls [150].
DontGoTILT folds.
panther656 has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
panther656 folds.
MRAU2u calls [150].
kgrad55 calls [75].
bogeyman999 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 5s, 3c ]
kgrad55 bets [400].
bogeyman999 is all-In [726]
Ironsam is all-In [632]
MRAU2u folds.
kgrad55 calls [326].


i was getting something like 2100 - 326 on my call but its very unlikely im best at this point...
was it ok to lead at this pot? I felt at the time that the texture was pretty good but i got a bad reaction hehe..
thanks

tigerite 07-25-2005 11:57 AM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
Fold preflop

FishHooks 07-25-2005 12:04 PM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
I dont think folding preflop in the SB is good at all here like the other guys said. I like your flop bet, a little more than the pot putts pressure on the short stacks, since they are short stacks they are also almost all-in if they get top pair, the guy that raised all-in might be ahead of you but with those odds you have to call him. However with betting 400 you better be prepaird to call when they go all in so I think its a no brainer.

kgrad5 07-25-2005 12:04 PM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
why would i fold pf with KJ in the BB getting 7-1?

kgrad5 07-25-2005 12:06 PM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
i was prepared to call an all in there, but what threw me off was the 2nd all in.. he saw the first guy go all in and still chose to call him, which leads me to believe im not good a majority of the time.. is it still a no brainer?

FishHooks 07-25-2005 12:08 PM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
I think you have to call, plus most people at these lower limit SNG's aren't that great of players, those odds are just too good to throw awa.

tigerite 07-25-2005 12:19 PM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
[ QUOTE ]
why would i fold pf with KJ in the BB getting 7-1?

[/ QUOTE ]

Sorry, I read the hand wrong, thought you were the one who had limped UTG. I don't think I would bet out at this flop, UTG limps can often be hidden monsters, it's best to see what the others do first.

tigerite 07-25-2005 12:21 PM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
[ QUOTE ]
i was prepared to call an all in there, but what threw me off was the 2nd all in.. he saw the first guy go all in and still chose to call him, which leads me to believe im not good a majority of the time.. is it still a no brainer?

[/ QUOTE ]

It depends on your read of UTG. Has he been tight or a loose donk? Why would he limp for 1/5th his stack from UTG knowing there's a big possibility of being raised? Is this the first time he's limped at this level, or the level before, etc? I am not bothered about calling the BB's push, but the UTG one I think I am behind here. I would check this flop to be honest or bet 2/3rd of it, 400 seems a bit too much.

kgrad5 07-25-2005 12:26 PM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
UTG was ok, he was semi tight, would limp in once in a while and when he hit his hand he would insta push every time.. hadnt seen him do anything sneaky up to this point but i guess that doesnt mean he is incapable of it.

tigerite 07-25-2005 12:28 PM

Re: did i make a stupid call here? huge odds..
 
But has he been limping at the 50/100 and 75/150 level even though it is a big chunk of his stack? That's the key, rather than limping for 50 when he has 600 odd, for instance (even though this also is not a good play, it's less so than the former)


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