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Degen 03-23-2005 06:33 AM

JJ on Rag Flop
 
What's the right move?

$30+3...9 players w/ blinds at 15/30.

Hero has ~t1050
UTG+1 has ~t850
SB has ~t1200

Hero is MP w/

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UTG folds, UTG+1 Calls. Fold, Fold, Hero raises to 150. Fold, Fold, SB Calls, BB folds, UTG+1 Calls.


Flop (t480) 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]


SB Checks, UTG+1 Checks, Hero bets (250) SB raises (500), UTG+1 Calls (500)...hero ?????


Degen

Pepsquad 03-23-2005 07:10 AM

Re: JJ on Rag Flop
 
A raise AND an overcall? That's spooky! What in the he** is UTG+1 doing just calling and leaving himself with ~350!? I would have to fold unfortunately. BOTH of them aren't on a draw. The chances are too good you're either behind a slowplayed overpair, a set or some cobbled together 2-pair.

Pep.

Nicok7 03-23-2005 09:29 AM

Re: JJ on Rag Flop
 
- UTG is probably on a good made hand, TPTK at least, and tries to chase the draw. it is likely you have him beat, but hard to tell.
- At the 30+3 SB could be a complete fish that pays with the same range of hand, or a AK that missed the flop, but if he knows the game a little bit he probably has you beat with a bigger pocker pair
- Add to this the fact that at this stage of the tournament you have to much too loose, and I believe you have a clear fold.

john_ 03-23-2005 10:11 AM

Re: JJ on Rag Flop
 
I fold assuming I had no reads on my opponents but I wouldn't be surprised if SB shows TPTK and UTG has Ax clubs.

microbet 03-23-2005 11:07 AM

Re: JJ on Rag Flop
 
I think you are beat.

My guesses:

SB has a pocket pair 99 or better or 55. So either trips or an overpair.

UTG+1 has a draw. Probably AcQc or AcKc or AcJc.


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