$22: missed push?
 

I felt like a wuss after folding here. Is this a terribly missed push from the button given the stack sizes? I had pushed 2 out of the last 3 hands and was concerned about table image, but I think that I should have ignored that and pushed anyway.


UTG: corsair081 ( $1161 )
CO: TcWalt80 ( $1620 )
Button: HERO ( $1315 )
SB: diveunderh20 ( $2377 )
BB: jdsmitt ( $1527 )

Blinds(75/150)

** Dealing down cards **

Dealt to HERO [ 6d 7d ]

corsair081 folds.
TcWalt80 folds.
HERO folds.

Re: $22: missed push?
 

Sorry, but i really really disagree. Folding is fine here unless SB and BB are very tight. Why do you want to push 7 high from the button when you have 9xbb behind? Especially if you pushed the last 2/3 hands..

Re: $22: missed push?
 

Look at the stack sizes, especially the BB. He would need a very strong hand to call. I was actually quite torn here and wasn't sure if folding was correct.

Re: $22: missed push?
 

I think this is an easy fold. If blinds are at 2 bills, I push this all the way. You have time to actually catch a hand and FE left.

Re: $22: missed push?
 

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Sorry, but i really really disagree. Folding is fine here unless SB and BB are very tight. Why do you want to push 7 high from the button when you have 9xbb behind? Especially if you pushed the last 2/3 hands..

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What he said.

Re: $22: missed push?
 

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Sorry, but i really really disagree. Folding is fine here unless SB and BB are very tight. Why do you want to push 7 high from the button when you have 9xbb behind? Especially if you pushed the last 2/3 hands..

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Cuz there's only two players left to act and I have significant FE. The blinds are significant, and if called by a couple of overs, I have a great suckout hand. I'm ~58-42 vs non-paired overs such as AK if they happen to pick up a hand. I'd like to begin to seperate myself from the field with everyone bunched together.

Well, I guess I don't feel bad about folding... maybe I should feel bad about considering pushing in the first place? [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] I gotta believe that at least some good players would push here though. I seems like a fairly close decision to me for the reasons that I have given.

Re: $22: missed push?
 

This is not as bad as i first thought. If you put both players calling ranges on 66+ ATs+ and Ajo+ its a clear push. However since there are alot of trigger happy players in the 22$ tourneys that will have ranges closer to 44+, A7s+ A9+ KJs+ and KQ i still say its a fold. But if you know they are both decent players and they don't know you are a friggin pushbot its a clear push.

Re: $22: missed push?
 

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and they don't know you are a friggin pushbot

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Hey... thanks for noticing. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Re: $22: missed push?
 

At the $22s the ranges go down after 45suited pushes from the button on back-to-back orbits. So, I like a fold here. Even taking one orbit off gives SB and BB a break and let's them "forget" you are taking their blinds. Oftentimes, letting them know you are not pushing every time bumps thier range back up for the next go 'round.

Edit: Mis-read OP. I don't think it's as big a deal that 45Suited pushed 2 outta last 3 hands. BB and SB are less likely to care that he stole other people's blinds, so the ranges are probably still high.

Still, I like a fold here to let them know you are NOT push-botting.

Re: $22: missed push?
 

Its not the hand so much as what you gain here. You'll probably get away with it, but I am not sure if the risk is worth the reward. would you push 72 here? because its not much different.

like another poster said, BB=200 and that makes enough of a difference for me.