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IQ89 07-14-2005 05:36 PM

(WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
(WSOP) When the Main Event starts back up today at 3:00pm do you know what the blinds & antes will be at?

Thanks

UMTerp 07-14-2005 05:38 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
They are about halfway through the level with $20,000-$40,000 blinds and $5,000 antes.

Players will (should) be push/folding any stacks below $500K or so, and if two stacks of $2M or more are involved in a pot, there's still plenty of "real poker" to be played...

IQ89 07-14-2005 05:40 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
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They are about halfway through the level with $20,000-$40,000 blinds and $5,000 antes.

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FMMonty 07-14-2005 05:47 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
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They are about halfway through the level with $20,000-$40,000 blinds and $5,000 antes.

Players will (should) be push/folding any stacks below $500K or so, and if two stacks of $2M or more are involved in a pot, there's still plenty of "real poker" to be played...

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This 10 X Big Blind strategy of pushing, starting to bug me, in sit and go's with fast blinds I see why, but on the length of these blinds, with 27 players, this is not always the correct play, if you think different... I'll play you any day

TomHimself 07-14-2005 05:49 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
with 10bb's at this point it is push or fold, antes are eating you away. do you now see why?

closer2313 07-14-2005 05:50 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
I think he is referring to M levels not 10xBB

20,000 + 40,000 + 5000x9 = 105,000 to play one orbit. That makes the m level for a 500,000 stack less than 5, which is def push or fold.

PokerMatt 07-14-2005 05:53 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
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They are about halfway through the level with $20,000-$40,000 blinds and $5,000 antes.

Players will (should) be push/folding any stacks below $500K or so, and if two stacks of $2M or more are involved in a pot, there's still plenty of "real poker" to be played...

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This 10 X Big Blind strategy of pushing, starting to bug me, in sit and go's with fast blinds I see why, but on the length of these blinds, with 27 players, this is not always the correct play, if you think different... I'll play you any day

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I see what you're saying, but basing whether or not to push solely off of the big blind is incorrect. How many big blinds isn't indicative of how long you are going to survive in the tournament. The important thing is how many times around the table you can last with your stack as it currently stands. In this case, each orbit will cost 105,000 chips (adding up the antes and blinds). So someone with 500,000 only has 5 orbits left before they are gone and have to be much more aggressive. This is the so-called "Red Zone"; Harrington on Hold'em Volume 2 gives a much more detailed explanation of this concept.

UMTerp 07-14-2005 05:53 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
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I think he is referring to M levels not 10xBB

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Yeah, the M was what the dirty calculation was based on; I didn't intend to start a war over it.

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This 10 X Big Blind strategy of pushing, starting to bug me, in sit and go's with fast blinds I see why, but on the length of these blinds, with 27 players, this is not always the correct play, if you think different... I'll play you any day

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You do agree that at some relative stack size it's correct to push/fold, right? Assuming you agree on that, $500K isn't too far off - I was just giving a roundabout number. Sheesh.

FMMonty 07-14-2005 05:54 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
I fully understand what the full orbit value is, and 80% of the time is is push, but i was just saying it's not automatic

UMTerp 07-14-2005 05:56 PM

Re: (WSOP) When Play Resumes Today, What Will Blinds Be At?
 
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I fully understand what the full orbit value is, and 80% of the time is is push, but i was just saying it's not automatic

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Fair enough, there are always exceptions. This isn't really the right place to be arguing semantics about short-stacked tournament play though.


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