Phil Helmuth
 

This pro has a strong drive to win but very little control over his emotions when he loses.

I can understand why people don't like him or enjoy seeing him lose but I don't undestand those that feel he is talentless as a Tourney Pro.

I invite all peasants to speak their mind on this subject.

Re: Phil Helmuth
 

Nobody thinks he is talentless as a tourney pro.

Re: Phil Helmuth
 

there's no denying his talent ( 9 WSOP wins and the money leader) -

In the end, it's totally his attitude - and like he said in the weeks Card Player magazine - 49 of the 50 hrs. you play with him, he's a good guy - it's that 50th hr when the cameras are on and the flashbulbs go off...

so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt...he seems to be trying - but in no way would I not consider him very good at poker playing

Re: Phil Helmuth
 

This topic is probably about as old as the castle you own.

Re: Phil Helmuth
 

I've never played with Hellmuth so I have no comment. I have however played with TJ Cloutier on several occaisions and I can't figure why no one complains about this guy. I mean the guy is just one bad beat story after another. He never stops complaining about his bad cards and his bad luck. It's truely a pain in the ass to play at TJ's table. At least Hellmuth is fun to laugh at when he throws a temper tantrum. TJ is also notorious for hitting you up for a buy-in if he senses you are fresh meat and thus clueless. I've never heard of Hellmuth groveling for a buy-in, but that doesn't mean he hasn't done so.

Re: Phil Helmuth
 

I think he's a great poker player.

It's just that when you go to the trouble of painting a target on your back, you shouldn't be surprised when people take potshots at it.

Re: Phil Helmuth
 

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I invite all peasants to speak their mind on this subject.


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Perhaps I'll be invited to reply to another post at another time, then.

Re: Phil Helmuth
 

Phil's talent is undenialable...so is his ability to lose control from time to time and say stupid things.

Re: Phil Helmuth
 

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TJ is also notorious for hitting you up for a buy-in if he senses you are fresh meat and thus clueless.

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Where have you heard this from? Not doubting you, just never heard of it.

pardon me sir...
 

but do you have any "grey poupon"?