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Dommer 08-16-2005 05:52 AM

can someone exlpain these odds to me?
 
I had this hand today:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter

BB ($107.18)
UTG ($96.10)
UTG+1 ($158.28)
MP1 ($146.41)
MP2 ($96)
Hero ($104.90)
Button ($116.90)
SB ($102.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1.

Flop: ($8.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Turn: ($8.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

River: ($8.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Final Pot: $8.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB doesn't show.
UTG+1 doesn't show.
MP1 has Kh Kd (three of a kind, kings).
Hero has 7s 8s (high card, ace).
Outcome: MP1 wins $8.50. </font>

PS: The betting messed up, he bet 4$ on the flop, I reraised to 15, he pushed and I called.

I thought I had to call because I was under the assumption that I was near 50% against any hand. Afterwards however I went to twodimes.net and found out I was only 21% to win against a set! The hand I thought he had. Also for some reason AK with no spade was more of a favorite v me than two pair, how is that possible? If the set is an 80% favorite because of full house outs, how is two pair more of a dog than one pair? I'm confused...

MickeyHoldem 08-16-2005 07:34 AM

Re: can someone exlpain these odds to me?
 
After the flop, your hand...

.vs a set....... ~42% you win
.vs 2 pair...... ~49% you win
.vs AK.......... ~52% you win
.vs AK(no sp)... ~56% you win

I don't see any contridiction here, and I'm not sure where you get your 21% number...

Get pokerstove!

Guernica4000 08-16-2005 12:07 PM

Re: can someone exlpain these odds to me?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I had this hand today:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) converter

BB ($107.18)
UTG ($96.10)
UTG+1 ($158.28)
MP1 ($146.41)
MP2 ($96)
Hero ($104.90)
Button ($116.90)
SB ($102.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1.

Flop: ($8.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Turn: ($8.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

River: ($8.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Final Pot: $8.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB doesn't show.
UTG+1 doesn't show.
MP1 has Kh Kd (three of a kind, kings).
Hero has 7s 8s (high card, ace).
Outcome: MP1 wins $8.50. </font>

PS: The betting messed up, he bet 4$ on the flop, I reraised to 15, he pushed and I called.

I thought I had to call because I was under the assumption that I was near 50% against any hand. Afterwards however I went to twodimes.net and found out I was only 21% to win against a set! The hand I thought he had. Also for some reason AK with no spade was more of a favorite v me than two pair, how is that possible? If the set is an 80% favorite because of full house outs, how is two pair more of a dog than one pair? I'm confused...

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Heads up KdKh vs 78s is 77% vs 23% after Kc 6s 9s it is 58% vs 42% and after the turn Ac the percetages are 70% vs 30% as per CardPlayer.com


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