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pzhon 09-02-2004 04:53 AM

Unusual birthday puzzle
 
This was posted on usenet a few years ago. Which of the following is more likely?

A) 365 random people have 365 different birthdays.
B) 365^2 random people don't have all 365 birthadys.

The probabilities are close. Ignore February 29th.

random 09-02-2004 06:50 AM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle *DELETED*
 
Post deleted by random

Duke 09-02-2004 06:59 AM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle
 
--deleted since what was once a question will now look like an unwarranted attack--

random 09-02-2004 07:03 AM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle
 
aradsfa;lsk i'm retarded, 6am, going to sleep

FrankLu99 09-02-2004 09:32 PM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle
 
[ QUOTE ]
This was posted on usenet a few years ago. Which of the following is more likely?

A) 365 random people have 365 different birthdays.
B) 365^2 random people don't have all 365 birthadys.

The probabilities are close. Ignore February 29th.

[/ QUOTE ]

ok i am foolish enough to take a shot ( just like how i bluff the river with 8 high)
P(A) == 1/(365!)
P(B) >= 365*((364/365)^(365^2))

Am i close?
I will guess that B is more likely

random 09-03-2004 12:21 AM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle
 
[ QUOTE ]
..will now look like an unwarranted attack

[/ QUOTE ] Certainly not. I said something stupid and it needed to be pointed out. I appreciate you deleting it, though. See ya.

bigpooch 09-03-2004 02:57 AM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle
 
Well, they are close in order of magnitude. If anyone is
so inclined, they can check that the first probability is
roughly bigger by a factor of sqrt(2xpix365). (For those
who are mathematically inclined, it's almost immediate from
Stirling's approximation).

RiverTheNuts 09-03-2004 04:34 AM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle
 
im just curious, but how the hell did 2 pi get into a formula with 365 days?? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I should really learn this crap

Duke 09-03-2004 05:06 AM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle
 
[ QUOTE ]
how the hell did 2 pi get into a formula with 365 days?

[/ QUOTE ]

Pi has nothing to do with the day count. Call it N days and then relate the 2 functions/series/whatever. That relation is where the guy is saying that pi comes from.

I don't know if he's right since I didn't investigate further, but that's what he means. I think.

~D

Gordon Scott 09-03-2004 09:42 AM

Re: Unusual birthday puzzle
 
Not a math guy but B
My guess would be that A isn't close.


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