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11-10-2005 08:45 AM

JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

BB (t4590)
UTG (t1500)
MP (t1535)
CO (t3420)
Hero (t1185)
SB (t1270)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t150.

Flop: (t475) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, UTG calls t250.

Turn: (t975) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t1050 (All-In)</font>

Hero?

Kristian 11-10-2005 08:59 AM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
Fold really fast?

11-10-2005 09:10 AM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
Fold even faster than that.

bennies 11-10-2005 09:12 AM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
fo

By the way, anyone not c-betting this flop?

HesseJam 11-10-2005 09:29 AM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
[ QUOTE ]
fo

By the way, anyone not c-betting this flop?

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Yeah, I also would like to know.

Also, if you c-bet the flop and it is checked to you on the turn, do you fire another barrel? I guess I wouldn't.

durron597 11-10-2005 09:37 AM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
Check behind on the flop and hope you hit your jack on the turn?

11-10-2005 09:40 AM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

By the way, anyone not c-betting this flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, I also would like to know.

Also, if you c-bet the flop and it is checked to you on the turn, do you fire another barrel? I guess I wouldn't.

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That's what I was trying to decide before he pushed. Does it make any difference that he'd seen me lose with AT vs KJ when KJ made his straight (and two pair for me) two hands before?

bawcerelli 11-10-2005 09:42 AM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
yeah you've got to c bet this flop. after he calls, you have to check through the turn UI. but since he bet, you fold.

11-10-2005 11:48 AM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
The limp-call, check-call, push just smelled really funny. Combined with the fact that I had to satisfy my curiosity and was going to be in relatively bad shape if I folded...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (6 handed) converter

BB (t4590)
UTG (t1500)
MP (t1535)
CO (t3420)
Hero (t1185)
SB (t1270)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls t150.

Flop: (t475) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, UTG calls t250.

Turn: (t975) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t1050 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t735 (All-In).

River: (t2760) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2760

Results below:
UTG has Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (one pair, aces).
Hero has J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, aces and jacks).
Outcome: Hero wins t2445. UTG wins t315.

Melchiades 11-10-2005 12:00 PM

Re: JJ with two overcards on the flop ($27)
 
It's still a fold though.


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