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barongreenback 05-27-2005 11:26 AM

$200 6max. I WILL have this pot.
 
Villain was passive but not too loose preflop and a bit loose passive postflop. BB seemed tightish and decent(relatively). Not many hands, though.

I seemed to have been raising a lot preflop so far in this short session and had showndown 87s and KTo with big wins. They've only gone and started coldcalling me everytime. I'm shocked that my honesty is being questioned. Damned if I'm going to stop raising though.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter

SB ($164.95)
BB ($203.45)
Hero ($367.05)
Button ($232)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, Button calls $6, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($19) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, Button calls $12, BB folds.

Turn: ($43) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, Button folds.

Final Pot: $68

My main question is: what is the range of hands he is folding on the turn here?
Was I right to bet flop and/or turn?

MixedNuts 05-27-2005 11:42 AM

Re: $200 6max. I WILL have this pot.
 
JJ-99 is my guess

Leave a tip for the flop goddess.

TheWorstPlayer 05-27-2005 11:59 AM

Re: $200 6max. I WILL have this pot.
 
Could also be queen.

EchoOfThunder 05-27-2005 12:09 PM

Re: $200 6max. I WILL have this pot.
 
Seeing as how you were playing very aggressive, if he had a mid-high pair like jj or TT he would probably reraise you. I would put him on a hand like QJ, lower mid pair like 77-99, maybe he pushed a straight draw like JT out of frustration or something like AT, with an ace and a gutshot. Finally, maybe he called with a flush draw then thought better of it, assuming you might have a king, killing some of his flush outs.

so in order, QJ, 77-99, lower pockets, AT, JT, flush draw.

barongreenback 05-27-2005 03:16 PM

Re: $200 6max. I WILL have this pot.
 
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so in order, QJ, 77-99, lower pockets, AT, JT, flush draw.

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Sounds good.
Two problems in this sort of situation:
hands I know will fold may not have called flop (AT,77)
hands I know called flop may not fold (QJ,JT,flush draw,Kx)

Flush draw usually has other draws as well and I don't think its folding anyway. So question is how often does JT or a queen fold. Perhaps I should think about these things before I bet. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

With my draw i'ts not too bad if he calls just as long as he doesn't raise or have KQ, but if I can get players to fold these hands then this may become reasonable with a pure bluff.

Thoughts anyone?
James

barongreenback 05-27-2005 03:23 PM

Re: $200 6max. I WILL have this pot.
 
[ QUOTE ]
if he had a mid-high pair like jj or TT he would probably reraise you.

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I didn't think so. Funnily enough before this another player (who raised more than this guy) CC me with JJ when I had 87s. I got a big river call out of his overpair when I hit a BD flush. I love being a fish. Hope I went on his buddy list.

BTW I often don't reraise with JJ but I'm not sure about this.

James


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