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11t 07-03-2005 03:40 PM

Anybody fold here?
 
Anybody fold here? SB's range is any two but is this really maximizing my win rate?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) converter

Hero (t2950)
Button (t615)
SB (t9935)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t1800</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2900

runner4life7 07-03-2005 03:43 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
I would go all in as well, not sure if it is right or not, but if you win then you are close to being even with the chip leader giving you an actualy shot at 1st.

lastchance 07-03-2005 04:47 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
I don't think so.

johnnybeef 07-03-2005 05:02 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
i fold all but aa and kk here.

Karak567 07-03-2005 05:11 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
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i fold all but aa and kk here.

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You're kidding, right?

I beat him to the pot here, push it.

11t 07-03-2005 05:29 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
He is getting like 4:1 to call though, he isn't folding anything.

runner4life7 07-03-2005 05:30 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
yes, but he was hoping youd fold because of the low stack, I play for first, if you want to play for 2nd that is fine by me.

11t 07-03-2005 05:33 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
I'm talking about maximizing my win-rate over the long term and what is the smartest thing to do here

johnnybeef 07-03-2005 05:40 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
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i fold all but aa and kk here.

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You're kidding, right?

I beat him to the pot here, push it.

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lets think about this one before we say "oh oh oh, ive got an ace with a decent kicker and im being pushed into in a 3 handed pot," as that is what donks do (and we all know that 2+2ers aren't donks.) while it is true that you are holding a pretty decent hand here (and you are likely ahead), you are so infrequently way ahead with this holding, that folding here is correct due to the payout structure, and the short stack being all in on the next hand.

johnnybeef 07-03-2005 05:43 PM

Re: Anybody fold here?
 
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yes, but he was hoping youd fold because of the low stack, I play for first, if you want to play for 2nd that is fine by me.

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even if you double up on this hand, you are still at a pretty big chip disadvantage. thus, first place is going to be a difficult achievement. think of it as being unattainable, and then redetermine what you are playing for.


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