Two Plus Two Older Archives

Two Plus Two Older Archives (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   One-table Tournaments (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=34)
-   -   20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI (http://archives2.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=305698)

08-01-2005 11:53 PM

20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
For all you $55 + players, here is something for you to consider...

FACT: You make more profit per game, with a higher ROI.

FACT: Most players make a much lower ROI at the $55 games than the $11 games.

MY THEORY:
If you make more per game at the $11s, why not play them?
Because, Mr. Weakling, the stakes are lower and we don't actually make more per game. It's just a higher percentage of the buyin per game we make.

Ah! Ok. Then why not play more games, so that you are wagering the same amount, but getting a higher ROI??!


If you don't realize it yet, let me give a practical example.

A certin $55 STT player 4 tables and has a ROI of 15%. That is $8.25/game. This equals about $33/set.

Now, this same player has an ROI of 30% at the $11s. That is $3.30/game.

If you could 20 table the $11s, you would make $66/set.

You would make DOUBLE the profit per set, with far less varience.

So tell me, why has no one done it yet? Maybe they have but I haven't read about anyone even attempting 20 tables. Since $11 games are fairly robotic until the final 4, I see no reason why a winning $55 player could not give themself a SIGNIFICANT increase in ROI simply by increasing the amount of games they play per set.

Just my 2 cents.

HonestIago15 08-01-2005 11:57 PM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
1)Noone with the hardware capabilities to 20-table the 10's would play only 4 50's at a time.

2) It'd be incredibly stressful and not fun to play 20 freakin games at a time

3)Your assumption that someone would only be able to pull 15% at the 50's but would be able to maintain 30% playing 20 10's is kind of ludicrous.

That's probably why.

gildwulf 08-01-2005 11:58 PM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
You're working under the assumption that ROI doesn't drop drastically the more tables you have.

viennagreen 08-02-2005 12:03 AM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
do it, and let us know how it works out

08-02-2005 12:08 AM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
It would be very interesting for someone with the hardware and bankroll capacity to do this experiment. It would be cool to see their stats after 1000 games (which would not take long byt he way). Unfortunatly, I won't for the next few months, but will deffinatly try it.

08-02-2005 12:12 AM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
True but more true for highers stakes. The $55 games are much more difficult, and require more thinking that then $11 games. I could play the $11s while watching a movie, talking on the phone, and listening to music at the same time without thinking. It is very robotic, kind of like breathing.

You are failing to realize that no matter how many tables you play, you will recieve a higher ROI% at the $11s than the $55s.

The Yugoslavian 08-02-2005 12:15 AM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
I'm sure some small stakes limit players have done/do this.

Yugoslav

johnnybeef 08-02-2005 12:16 AM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
because 8 tabling is strenuous enough....go hang yourself.

(that last line was for the old citanul

08-02-2005 12:17 AM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
[ QUOTE ]
1)Noone with the hardware capabilities to 20-table the 10's would play only 4 50's at a time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Good point, but this is only a theory.

[ QUOTE ]
2) It'd be incredibly stressful and not fun to play 20 freakin games at a time

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree.

[ QUOTE ]
3)Your assumption that someone would only be able to pull 15% at the 50's but would be able to maintain 30% playing 20 10's is kind of ludicrous.

[/ QUOTE ]

Maybe my assumptions are off. Do you have better figures?
But in theory, tihnk of it like this.

A winning $55 player will almost certainly have a higher ROI at the $11 games.

4 $55s - $220 risked - (INSERT YOUR $55 ROI HERE)
20 $11s - $220 risked - (INSERT YOUR $11 ROI HERE)

If your $11 ROI is higher, then you make more money. Make sense?

[ QUOTE ]
That's probably why.

[/ QUOTE ]

HonestIago15 08-02-2005 12:19 AM

Re: 20 tabling for $55 players - Increase your ROI
 
[ QUOTE ]
True but more true for highers stakes. The $55 games are much more difficult, and require more thinking that then $11 games. I could play the $11s while watching a movie, talking on the phone, and listening to music at the same time without thinking. It is very robotic, kind of like breathing.

You are failing to realize that no matter how many tables you play, you will recieve a higher ROI% at the $11s than the $55s.

[/ QUOTE ]

First of all, you never replied to the ridiculous notion that someone who was equipped to 20-table would most certainly do more than four 55's at a time.

Secondly, you're saying that just because you will always have a higher ROI at the 10's you will always have a higher hourly rate. That's ridiculous.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:55 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.