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MMMMMM 02-22-2003 01:03 AM

Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
This little article is a good read. Alistair Cooke makes no pretense that the historical circumstances are the same, but he has a message which he conveys in his own inimitable style.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles...le.asp?ID=6255

brad 02-22-2003 02:17 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
why does no one ever talk about 'appeasing stalin?'. seriously.

adios 02-22-2003 02:29 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
"why does no one ever talk about 'appeasing stalin?'. seriously"

Because the Chris Alger's of the world would accuse those that do as being unilateraly opposed to the legitimacy of every communist regime on the planet [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]. Seriously you do bring up a good point IMO.

Zeno 02-22-2003 02:35 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
Enjoyed the article. Thanks for posting it. Mr. Cooke does have an interesting historical perspective.

Do you (or anyone else) know if Alistair still does his "Letter from America" radio broadcast.

-Zeno

brad 02-22-2003 02:38 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
i dont know i agree with almost everything C.A. says . heh

if you look at WW2 and stuff i think you have to realize propaganda that existed because we fought on side of russians instead of germans, when really they were pretty much indistinguishable.

Jimbo 02-22-2003 03:04 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
russians instead of germans, when really they were pretty much indistinguishable. Brad the Russians were much taller, plus I believe they spoke with a different accent. [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]


brad 02-22-2003 03:53 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
well since jim agrees with me then i guess its unanimous. heh

Mason Malmuth 02-22-2003 04:50 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
Hi Brad:

Well there's a couple of reasons for this. First, England desperately needed an active ally to survive. When Hitler attacked Russia, this occurred.

Seceond, you need to look at the events at the end of WWII. I'm not talking about Europe, but Asia. Russia had attacked the Japanese in China and essentially ran over them. This left them with a large portion of China under their control. But Stalin withdrew.

Now you can argue, and I believe this has much merit, that Stalin was afraid of the US atomic bomb and didn't want Moscow to be the next target. But by withdrawing from China, even though he grabbed much of Eastern Europe, he seemed to act very opposite from the idea of appeasement.

Best wishes,
Mason

brad 02-22-2003 05:06 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
well i meant hitler and stalin started the war by invading poland.

ive read hitler wouldnt have minded allying with england, however pie in the sky that sounds now. it was only really germany and ussr that were gonna go to war no matter what.

MMMMMM 02-22-2003 09:26 AM

Re: Alistair Cooke: Appeasing Hitler and Saddam (short article)
 
try this link, Zeno;-)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/let...ca/default.stm


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