Curtains: ITM
Your move?
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t300 (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com Button (t3310) SB (t760) Hero (t5930) Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="red">Button raises t600</font>, <font color="red">SB raises t610 (All-in)</font>, |
Re: Curtains: ITM
I haven't played SNGs in a while, but I would push this without even blinking twice.
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I push here the majority of the time.
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Call, see a flop, and go from there. I assume you are the best player at the table, so if you dont hit the flop, move on to the next hand, hopefully heads up.
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I like jamming here. The button folds nearly everything and then we get to fight shorty with a very nice overlay.
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I call to eliminate and get it to 2... I like my odds better with 2 people than 1 and then i can take it down heads up
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I know this is weak-tight but I call and look to check it down unless I catch a monster. Up until a month or two ago this was a push for me, however I've had similar plays back fire and now I look to avoid running in to what could be a trap min-raise. Again, weak tight but I like the line of calling and re-evaluate after the flop.
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Is it true that if we just call, button cannot re-raise here? (since SB's raise must be more than 1/2 over button's) Is this rule pretty much the same on every site?
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This rule is the same on Party, as I'm sure it is on most sites.
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Call, hope for a cheap showdown unless you hit big. KT isn't a monster and your still acting behind a raiser and a caller (even if the caller is already all-in).
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push. there is almost no conceivable way that button comes along with SB already all-in.
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call and help take out shorty
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I hope you're kidding. Is button folding AT-AK, 88+? I doubt it, and I'm fairly certain there are many more hands that he will call with.
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it was a quick response, but i really wasn't kidding, and still think i might make that play.
think if you're button: you raise to 2x BB, SB calls all-in, and then BB pushes (who covers you). i'd need to be real sure i was going to win because otherwise it looks like i'm coming in second place based upon BB's big-stack push. i'd be interested in what range of hands you'd have to put button on to not make that push. |
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This guy's range is much larger than AT-AK, 88+ for a button minraise. I think a lot of players would fold TT and AQ here as well, especially at the $215s.
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I think a lot of players would fold TT and AQ here as well, especially at the $215s. [/ QUOTE ] No chance. If button's any good, he knows curtains has an expanded range here. Plus, he can get 2nd if curtains beats them both this hand. A good button is calling with pairs as low as 77 or so here. |
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ITM Button will certainly call a lot more than on the bubble. If you push, button will still be likely to come in second if he calls as he probably has a decent hand and SB is a random hand. Button did raise into you, not just shorty, and could have a strong hand.
I'd call. Button will ALMOST never bet without a strong hand after the flop, making play very easy for you. |
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Button will ALMOST never bet without a strong hand after the flop, making play very easy for you. [/ QUOTE ] That's a good point. And remember, as nice as it'd be if you did push and win the hand, button eliminating the SB here is a much better result for you than if you push and SB happens to win the pot. Call and see the flop. |
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Minraiser has to lose to both short stack and curtains to get 3rd here.
He's not folding AQ or TT here. |
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Yeah good points I certainly wouldn't be folding TT/AQ here, I think I was out of my mind thinking that now.
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funny how this forum works. i was thinking about the fact that buton would need to lose to SB too. ahhh 2+2. great hand though. really makes you think.
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RESULTS
PartyPoker, Big Blind is t300 (3 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com
Button (t3310) SB (t760) Hero (t5930) Preflop: Hero is in BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="red">Button raises t600</font>, <font color="red">SB raises t610 (All-in)</font>, HERO CALLS t460, Button calls t160 Flop: (t2280) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players) Hero checks, Button checks Turn: (t2280) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players) <font color="red">Hero bets t700</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font> River: (t2980) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players) HERO shows [ Kc, Th ] a full house, Kings full of tens. SB shows [ Jd, Qc ] a straight, ten to ace. HERO wins 700 chips from side pot #1 with a full house, Kings full of tens. HERO wins 2280 chips from the main pot with a full house, Kings full of tens. |
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call and help take out shorty [/ QUOTE ] I don't see the value of raising the button out. If you push it and the button folds - the shortie STILL triples up if he wins. If the shortie is gonna triple up if he wins - why not have the other guy in for the ride. Now if the shortie had another 500 behind the raise - I might push...but here? call. |
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AQ or TT? Thats not even close...actually when the button min raises like this, they should be planning to call with a wide range of hands if the BB pushes. I mean everyone understands the old push to isolate trick, I don't know if my opponent did, but I wouldnt be folding something like A6s if for some unknown reason I came in with a minraise. |
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