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Deuce2High 07-23-2005 01:01 PM

Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
Level:7 Blinds(150/300)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: Sandbagger27 ( $2175 )
Seat 3: Magellan9111 ( $2645 )
Seat 9: Silentthundr ( $3405 )
Seat 10: AllInLuckBot ( $1775 )
Blinds(150/300)
Dealt to AllInLuckBot [ Ad Qd ]
Magellan9111 folds.
Silentthundr is all-In [3405]

Villian isn't retarded but I'm not so sure he's the best player in the world either. Assume he's an average 109 player that has a typical idea of how to play the bubble but is no genius.

pergesu 07-23-2005 01:04 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
I'm pretty sure folding here is atrocious.

edit: If you're willing to fold AQs here, he is correct to push any two.

microbet 07-23-2005 01:16 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
$EV fold = .192
$EV call and win = .325
You need to win 59% of the time here.

I think you're there. Call.

JayKon 07-23-2005 01:17 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
Call because its a good hand and I want to win, not take 3rd. If you bust, you bust. Move on.

Freudian 07-23-2005 01:27 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
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Call because its a good hand and I want to win, not take 3rd. If you bust, you bust. Move on.

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Even more important is the stack sizes. Most likely Hero needs to win a showdown to feel comfortable here. AQs definately does well enough at showdown for it to be worth a call here.

johnnybeef 07-23-2005 01:56 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
this one is very dependent upon his range, which is tough for me to do without actually being at the table. that being said, my standard play would be to call, due to the fact that most players will be pushing a wide range of hands.

skierdude1000 07-23-2005 02:45 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
def call unless you think you'll get a better hand soon

pergesu 07-23-2005 08:39 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
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def call unless you think you'll get a better hand soon

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Okay I gotta ask...is this serious?

How could you possibly know/think/feel/speculate the quality of hands you'll receive in the short period of time that is the remainder of a tourney?

45suited 07-23-2005 08:42 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
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How could you possibly know/think/feel/speculate the quality of hands you'll receive in the short period of time that is the remainder of a tourney?

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Cuz we just found out today that the seats are rigged in online poker. Duh!

trdi 07-23-2005 10:00 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
Seat 10 : fold
Other seats : call
(Seat 7 & my cheat code : call, it's a guaranteed royal flush)

raptor517 07-23-2005 11:13 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
if hes good at all, hes pushing a huge amount of hands from that button. this is an EASY call imo. holla

skierdude1000 07-23-2005 11:30 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
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def call unless you think you'll get a better hand soon

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Okay I gotta ask...is this serious?

How could you possibly know/think/feel/speculate the quality of hands you'll receive in the short period of time that is the remainder of a tourney?

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Whoa there... relax. All I was saying was that it's not likely he will get a better hand than that soon and that now is the time for him to put in his chips. Obviously you can't foresee the future, but you can know that its not likely to get much better than AQ when you have under 10x BB

raptor517 07-23-2005 11:32 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
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def call unless you think you'll get a better hand soon

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Okay I gotta ask...is this serious?

How could you possibly know/think/feel/speculate the quality of hands you'll receive in the short period of time that is the remainder of a tourney?

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Whoa there... relax. All I was saying was that it's not likely he will get a better hand than that soon and that now is the time for him to put in his chips. Obviously you can't foresee the future, but you can know that its not likely to get much better than AQ when you have under 10x BB

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keep in mind.. its not always about how good yer hand is in tournament poker. holla

morgan180 07-23-2005 11:35 PM

Re: Bubble Poll... Call or Fold?
 
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I'm pretty sure folding here is atrocious.

edit: If you're willing to fold AQs here, he is correct to push any two.

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