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ZootMurph

07-01-2004, 10:59 PM

UTG in this hand is a TAGMT. I see him a lot and he is usually very aggressive. He IS capable of check/raising, but I haven't seen him do it on the river.

Because he is check/calling through here, I put him on a club draw and bet the river. Based on my read, right or wrong?

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Preflop: ZootMurph is MP1 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls, 1 fold, ZootMurph raises, 6 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, ZootMurph bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, ZootMurph bets, UTG calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, ZootMurph bets, UTG calls.

tech

07-01-2004, 11:16 PM

If that river card helped him, you were beat anyway. Super easy bet.

Haupt_234

07-02-2004, 01:07 AM

I would make this bet 100% of the time, even if I was unconcious.

I wonder if that's possible...

Haupt_234

ZootMurph

07-02-2004, 08:38 AM

Result is he has QJ/images/graemlins/club.gif. Because we've played against each other enough, he put me on a bigger pair and called with Jacks in case I had AK.

I've been having trouble with this type of situation, and I never know if it's best to check behind or bet. I've been betting and it has been paying off, either by others folding or showing 2nd best hand. But ocassionally I hit a hand like this and start doubting the river value bet, LOL.

Thanks for the replies.

Saborion

07-02-2004, 10:32 AM

Why wouldn't you value bet the river? What have he done to make you feel he might have a better hand than yours?

Saborion

07-02-2004, 10:34 AM

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I've been betting and it has been paying off, either by others folding

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If they are folding anything but a better hand than yours, then it's not paying off.

But regarding river bets like this. They are easy. The opponent haven't done anything that should make you think he have a better hand that yours. I personally think he played it weak.