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kem

06-29-2004, 11:37 PM

Usual party $0.50/$1.00 table. Is this a no-brainer fold when the flop is capped? It sure felt like I was up against a set, but I guess I was a little slow and didn't fully accept it until the turn...

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, MP3 raises, Button 3-bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 caps, Hero calls, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (14 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, MP3 calls, Button raises, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero folds, MP3 calls, Button calls.

River: (24 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 24 BB
Main Pot: 24 BB, between UTG+1, MP3 and Button. > Pot won by UTG+1 (24 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 shows 9c 9s (full house, nines full of kings).
MP3 shows Th 8h (one pair, kings).
Button shows 6d 6s (full house, sixes full of kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 24 BB.

citizenkn

06-29-2004, 11:46 PM

I think you folded at exactly the right time. When it's two bets back to you on the turn, there's no way that TPTK is any good.

detruncate

06-30-2004, 01:15 AM

Looks good, sir. If it was checked to you on the turn, would you have bet?

HajiShirazu

06-30-2004, 01:31 AM

I would have folded on the flop when it was 3 cold to me. When a guy comes to life and checkraise 4-bets, that's usually my signal to bow out and watch him showdown his set.

detruncate

06-30-2004, 03:39 AM

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I would have folded on the flop when it was 3 cold to me. When a guy comes to life and checkraise 4-bets, that's usually my signal to bow out and watch him showdown his set.

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This is a good point. I didn't even notice the check/cap the first time around. It's probably safe to fold here, but enough people like to 'get in on the action' when it's being raised in multiple places that I might still call and see the turn. Dunno. I'll have to think more about it.

cjromero

06-30-2004, 08:12 AM

I would have folded on the flop when having to call 3 bets cold. Even though you are getting 11-1 to call, you have to think you are up against a set, so the last thing you really want is another King pairing the board, because that will give someone a boat.

kiemo

06-30-2004, 09:32 AM

Fold on the flop when it comes back to you capped. You have to believe one of these three has a set

Any other advice is from someone who didnt read the history very closely.

citizenkn

06-30-2004, 10:42 AM

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Fold on the flop when it comes back to you capped. You have to believe one of these three has a set

Any other advice is from someone who didnt read the history very closely.

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Whoops, you're right. I thought it was only two bets back to him, not three. Fold the flop...