Real Food.

[Zeno]

Chick-fila-[censored] is crap.

You want really food. Eat in the Southwest US. From Texas through New Mexico over to Arizona and parts of very southern Colorado. Hit and miss in Southern Cal. Or, zoom over the border and get at least 100 miles south of the geopolitical line and stop and eat.

Great hot food with red and green chili, and all the extra spices and fixing’s that make it worthwhile. No watered down bland please don't make my eyes water type of processed and engineered food for the drooling masses of want-to-be hip coolly doolly dudes wearing white striped shirts that cost $200 a pop shade wearing Francophiles with sickly idealism hanging about their too perfect hair and shinny pointing shoes like files around a shithouse.

How hot - just about right when sweat beads up under your eyes and near the bridge of your nose - Sinuses cleared of any debris is also a good sign. Nothing is too hot, although I do remember once having some soup in Mexico (near Colima) that was so hot it made my ears pop. Towards the bottom of the bowl it was even more concentrated. It helped that I had spooned in some extra powered chili I suppose. That was some powerful stuff. Also, if it doesn’t burn coming out of your ass the next day, no way was it hot enough.

Nuff said, methinks.

You can stuff your fast food in a sack buddy.


-Zeno

[Ulysses]

Zeno is welcome to accompany El Diablo on his next voyage to India where we will be able to munch on sun-dried red chillies in anticipation of the excellent meal to follow. Powdered chili. Bah.

[FeliciaLee]

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Zeno is welcome to accompany El Diablo on his next voyage to India where we will be able to munch on sun-dried red chillies in anticipation of the excellent meal to follow. Powdered chili. Bah.

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I love Indian. Can I come? When I go to an Indian restaurant, I always tell them "Indian hot, not American hot. Indian! Yes, I can take it. I promise! I need a whole pitcher of ice water, and if I'm not crying throughout the meal, you didn't make it hot enough."

Felicia /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[HDPM]

Brewery Bar on south Kalamath in Denver. 3 rellenos, special, smothered green, flour tortilla on side, original crappy Miller on tap. You need to build immunity, but a few doses innoculate you. I about killed my father in law with his first lunch there. But he couldn't deny it was good going down. Too much whining the day after tho. Have eaten there with people who antacid load before going. They pop antacids while they wait. I think it is a placebo. Those things can't work and you do need your stomach acid to fight off the food. Eating the green straight out of the bowl is nice too. Not as much fat and grease to cut the heat, so you will sweat more and have your nose run. One guy ate 13 or 14 bowls, which is the record. They have a picture. He is still alive I think.

New Mexico is alright, although I've been disappointed there. SoCal I have not found the best stuff. So far, the only realy good stuff I have had there is from the taco trucks. Nice mystery meat soft tacos, but they aren't hot enough. Have had some good stuff there and Az tho. More experience in Co and NM. NM and so Colo. have some good stuff if you avoid too much blue corn and goat and stuff. Stick w/ green chile, etc.... Love those strings of peppers in the fall in NM. NM still presents too much risk of yuppified or about to be discovered by yuppie food. No ancho paste on medallions of goat on a bed of blue corn tortillas and black beans or whatever. Ick. Mystery meat somothered green for me thanks.


P.S. I need to schedule a jaunt to El Paso or Austin to drink beer, eat texmex, and be more of a wastrel than I am already so that I can comment on more places.

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Nothing is too hot

Well, sure, if you're talking Mexican. They have no clue how to make food really hot. For that, you have to go Indian.

[CCass]

You folks in the Western US don't know chit about real food. Real food is fried pork tenderloin, homemade bisquits and sawmill gravy. Add eggs and fried corn, and now you have a real meal!

[andyfox]

"How hot - just about right when sweat beads up under your eyes and near the bridge of your nose"

First time we were in Santa Fe, the third day my wife starts to cry as we're going to lunch. She said she couldn't take any more achiote, poblano, etc. So we drove to Albuquerque for our flight home and stopped at the local Radisson so she could get a tuna salad.

This was about ten years ago. Twenty visits later, she loves it.

Speaking of great food, just watched Big Night. Great movie. See it if you haven't. Wonderful performances, especially by Tony Shalhoub and Ian Holm.

[andyfox]

"New Mexico is alright"

Rancho de Chimayo in Chimayo, about a 45 minute drive from Santa Fe. Beautiful country, wondrous food, killer margaritas, though a bit touristy in setting.

[Phat Mack]

Well, sure, if you're talking Mexican. They have no clue how to make food really hot. For that, you have to go Indian.


Heh. You can get mexican food as hot as you want. I've learned never to say I want hot food in a Mexican restaurant. I say, "I'd like it a little on the spicy side." That way they don't try to kill me.

[Zeno]

Sounds like I need to make a trip. Some Chinese and Thai food is also high on the hot meter and also rates big on the delicious side too.

-Zeno

[Zeno]

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Most civil of you to invite me. Thanks. Just PM and I'll fit the trip into my schedule.

Only authentic Indian restaurant I ever ate at was in Vancouver BC (which also has many excellent Chinese, Thai, Vietcong, and Korean restaurants).

The food was superb. We started with some crispy wafer thin breadstuff. Free. I ordered some yellow curry dish with a goat, dog, and snake meat combo. I think. Rice was flavorful and non-sticky: A-1, yogurt standard addition, very fresh, and some fruity things and attachments swimming on the other side of the plate.

I forgot what the desert was - perhaps some kind of fruity ice-flavored jelly-like cow brains or something.

The waiter was Imperial. A Brahmin of the old school, he loomed about in morbid earnest, looking much like he was about to take his last dip in the Ganges before being hauled off to the pyre for his public burning along the shore.

To be serious the food was impressive and I have no doubt that Indian produces some wonderfully hot food. I hope some day to taste some.

El, you should start a thread about the pluses and minuses of all the different curries available and any differences with, say, Thai curry, etc.

-Zeno

[HDPM]

In grade school it seemed they always drug us around for week long trips looking at relics and rocks and historical crap. We had some jaunts down to NM and the 4 corners area. The whole area around Santa Fe and Taos is pretty cool. Most of the time on those things we got fed slop. Sometimes you'd get turned loose for decent food or somebody on a ranch would cook you something decent. Other times you'd get nasty stuff. Going down there on my own later on I found some better things. Beautiful country, and we saw a lot of cool stuff, but I can go a long f'in time before I ride a horse for 8 hours with no water to drink on a hot day to look at busted pottery shards and charcoal from the ancients' fires at some forsaken clif dwelling.

I need to get back to NM. I like all the scenery and galleries. Just no horseback rides or goofy mild food. BTW, the atomic museum in Albuquerque is cool. I got my woman some excellent bomb earrings. I think I got her one Fat Man and one Little Boy for the mix n' match set. I have a cool mushroom clud shirt. They didn't have the handy internet store when I went there as a kid. Progress is gr8.

[Zeno]

Green Chili is superb and a must for a lot of SW style food. Green Chili cheeseburgers are tops - there is small bar near, I think, Carrizozo, NM that serves some great Green Chili cheeseburgers, locally famous away.

-Zeno

[HDPM]

This place closed long ago, but some of the hottest food I ever had was at this Chinese retaurant in LA. It was a dump, linoleum floor, formica tables, etc.... They had some kind of noodle soup with tripe and various meat that was good and sooooo hot. It closed, LA being the morally bankrupt place it is. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif But there has to be some place there that is good and will make Mrs. Fox long for tuna on melba toast.

[dsm]

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Or zoom over the border at least 100 miles south...


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...and don't forget to bring the Imodium A-D.

-dsm

[andyfox]

Plus they're loaded with casinos there now. Robin Williams jokes about the squaw named Sits With A Full House.