Some River Hands

[BonJoviJones]

I've been having some river problems lately. Weak-Tight would probably be a good description.

Feel free to advise on any parts of the hand, but my specific river questions are after each hand.


Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button folds, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.

River: (14 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: 15 BB

The turn raise turned me off my hand, and with the flush not coming in I thought it was a good fold. Agree?


Hand 2

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Hero (poster) calls, Button calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (15.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(7 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (10.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

River: (14.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Final Pot: 18.75 BB

So many draws got there on the river, but the pot is awful big. Maybe the presence of UTG and UTG+1 left to act should tell me something?


Hand 3

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 9.50 BB

This may be the weakest play of my life. I guess I was afraid of the flush... Moster-under-the-bed-syndrome?


Hand 4

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $2.
<font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 (poster) calls, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG caps</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Turn: (10 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (16 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 18 BB

Bet? I don't think I can fold here.

[MAxx]

1) I would have played same way
2) I think you need to pop the turn here, I would have check called the river
3) Heads up, automatic bet w/o question... w/ 3 probably still auto bet... anymore than 3 or 4- i would check call
4) Unless you have a good read or excellent fealing about BB's holing, you need to fold to the turn raise. I would give credit to the average BB having a 10 here unless you think he is caple of the bluff. Going with that assumption,you are a 1-22 shot of catching a queen on the river. Pot isn't big enough yet.

[lil']

3) Heads up, automatic bet w/o question... w/ 3 probably still auto bet... anymore than 3 or 4- i would check call
The number of opponents in the hand shouldn't matter that much here, you still have to bet.

[MAxx]

lil, I think you are correct about hand 3. I was thinking that I would check call with more than 3 or 4 players b/c I would not like to call a raise with this hand after I bet river. Would it be a clear fold to a raise, given no reads on the raiser?