Simple quiz

In a heads-up situation where you are trailing your opponent with one card to come in hold 'em, what's the maximum number of outs you could have?


Provide an example that shows the stipulated number of outs.

I'll give it a try.


Let say you have JTd. Your opponent has 2s 2h.


The board is Qd 9d 3s 3h.


You have 7 flush outs+6 straight outs+12 over cards out(Q, J, T, and 9) = 25 total outs.


I hope I get the passing grade...

21 outs....str8/flush draw with overcards to his low pkt pair.


flush 9

str8 6

any K 3

any Q 3


board is Js Ts 5x 2x


he has 9 9 you have Ks Qs

I can come up with one with 24 outs. Maybe there is a way to get more.


If you have JhTh and your opponent has 3c2s and the board is 9h 8h 9s 2d then you have 24 outs.


9 hearts

3 Q's

3 7's

3 T's

3 J's

3 8's

off the top of my head , lets say youve got a straight flush draw and two pair. (opponent has baby set).


so 9+6+4= 19.


with 1 card to come that leaves 52-4-2-2= 44 cards.


so youre like a 6:5 dog.


brad

looked at others.


i guess i figured you meant opponent had a *good* hand.


brad

skp,


I'm going to define outs loosely. The board is 2233. You have 42. Your opponent has 52. He is ahead, but you have 3 outs to the win and 39 outs to the tie.


42 outs


Matt

Board is 2234. You have 53; opponent has 63. Opponent is ahead with the 6 kicker. You have 10 outs to the win and 31 outs to the tie.

If you are trailing your opponent with one card to come, then by definition you must have 21 outs or less. If you have 22+ you are not trailing. I'd say (assuming I get your meaning): if you would lose the hand if a river were not dealt, what is the maximum number of outs you'd have if a river were dealt. The answer (I saw on rgp) courtesy of B. Yoon is: you could have the guy dead to half the pot.

If you have 22, opponent has 23, board is two high pair (i.e. K K J J)


Any big card and you chop, case 2, and you win. Opponent is "drawing" for half the pot.

Passing grade it is....I believe 25 is the best but let me see how Matt down below gets 42!

hm..good one

The post GummyWorm posted is a good one, but as always, he is close, but not quite there. There is another scenario where you are trailing, but that there is no way your opponent can win outright AND you have more than just one out to win: One such hand:


(assume rainbow pocket cards and rainbow board):


You have 45.

Your opponent has 27.


The board is 3366.


You are clearly behind, but:


3 2's give you the pot with a straight.

2 3's split the pot.

3 4's give you the pot with two pair.

3 5's give you the pot with two pair.

2 6's split the pot.

3 7's give you the pot with a straight.

4 8's, 9's, T's, J's, Q's, K's, A's split the pot.


so, you have 12 outs to get the entire pot, 32 outs to split, and you cannot possibly lose the hand. Yet another reason not to play 27. /images/wink.gif

hm...better one

In the case where you have a 2 paired board and you hit and win or else chop, you only have 1 out to win and the other 52-4board-4in hand-1out = 43 to chop.


Thus you have a 1/44 = 2.3% chance of spiking. This means you chop 100-2.3=97.7% of the time. You equity is 48.9% + 2.3% = 51.2% while your opponent has 48.9% equity.(101% due to rounding).


If your opponent held 2h2d and the board were Td9c3d3h w/ you QdJd you'd have 8flush + 6straight + 6 overs + 6 board pairing cards = 26outs. So You've got 26/44 chance of winning while your opponent has 18/44 chance of winning.

I'd rather be in this situation than in the other(assuming it wasn't my rent money on the line).

You only have 25 outs - not 26. This is because if your opponent has the deuce of Diamonds, you only have 7 flush cards available to you i.e. the 3d is no good and the 2d is unavailable.


If you give your opponent the black deuces, the 2d and 3d are still no good as they fill up your opponent.

Didn't read the other responses.


If one has 2h2d, and the other has KsQs, and the board is


Js Jc Ts 7d,


then any A,K,Q, T, 7 or spade not alreadly mentioned (except 2s) wins for KsQs. That s 25 cards.

43

you 22

opp 32

board KKKK

skp -


If you could know Sooga, then you'd be able to imagine how big his head gets when you say things like this. But yeah, good one. The question I have for you, sooga, is that you say there are situations (plural) like this one. What are some others?


Worm

GummyWorm,


Perhaps you should stick with just playing your nickel/dime home games. Your poker intellect clearly is not mature enough to think on such complex levels. A similar hand (tho not exactly the same) is board 3344, you have 56, opponent with 27. There are obviously other similar board/hand combinations, but if you cannot see them for yourself, I will gladly list them all for you.

My!!! You are correct again. I will give you this - You have both wit, and bravery. Bravery, I say, because you are brave enough to wander over to the "mid-high limit section", even though you clearly are NOT a mid-limit player!! /images/smile.gif


Worm

I think you have the board right. But added wrong. Only the 2 of spades you can't hit. That 8 flush, 6 straight, 12 overs. Making it 26 outs.