What's wrong with the Internet Forum?

[OrangeHeat]

I think there is a misconception about "the misconception"

I think that sums it up.

Orange

[cardcounter0]

I think you are mistaken.

[Baulucky]

That's politically incorrect.

[thomastem]

The old guard has been pushed out and the new Christina B types seem to be in.

But hey as long as we stay on topic.

I'll go back to tending my critters and watch the new sophisticated types make "The Zoo", "The Pristine".

[CountDuckula]

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I think there is a misconception about "the misconception"

I think that sums it up.

Orange

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No, there's a misconception about the misconception of the misconception. Unless I've misunderstood my understanding of the misunderstanding yet again. Did anyone understand that? I didn't.

-Mike

[Dilbert]

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The old guard has been pushed out and the new Christina B types seem to be in.

"The Pristine".

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What the hell do you mean? Christina B is a nit. Are the flat chested girls and spineless boys in charge now?

Hell, give the forum to MicroBob, he posts more than anyone now (and usually on topic). But Christina B, for the love of God, don't let her in.

And what the hell is "The Pristine"?

Punk, are you screwing with us?

[Forum Enforcement Division]

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Hell, give the forum to MicroBob, he posts more than anyone now (and usually on topic).

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There is no question that this is true. One of the problems with the forum is that it is run by penny-ante players. Bob seems like a nice lad, but to have 400 posts a week from someone who can't afford a $6-$12 fixed limit game is an illustration of what the internet forum has become.


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[ChristinaB]

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One of the problems with the forum is that it is run by penny-ante players.

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The forum is not "run" by anyone. If the old farts choose not to post, that is their choice.

We are in a lull, post-casino whoring, pre-holiday reload whoring. With no big issues out there, the trolls post but the "seniors" are too lazy to post. Who needs 'em.

[Simon Diamond]

I'm thinking the 'seniors' you speak of (I'd include myself in that bracket) do not post here that much because there is so much bs at the moment. Maybe some of us have better things to do than waste time on all the crap that is round here these days.

Sad but true unfortunately.

Simon

[Homer]

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One of the problems with the forum is that it is run by penny-ante players.

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The forum is not "run" by anyone. If the old farts choose not to post, that is their choice.

We are in a lull, post-casino whoring, pre-holiday reload whoring. With no big issues out there, the trolls post but the "seniors" are too lazy to post. Who needs 'em.

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There are plenty of casino whoring opportunities out there. I'm pretty sure most players have only hit up the obvious Autoplay sites. There are plenty of others out there, though, that will produce an hourly rate equal to or greater than the amount most players make from playing poker. [/casino whoring ad]

-- Homer

[Oski]

I don't understand why anyone would think something was "wrong" here.

This forum is for "Discussions of Internet gambling venues, " which is found in the "General Gambling" Section.

Ok. Do Internet gambling venues get discussed here? Yes, and it seems to be done very throroughly. In other words, "Are we missing something?" "Did we leave something out?"

I doubt it.

Furthermore, as any social organism does, this forum has taken on an identity to reflect a social convention between the participants. From the beginning, in addition to discussion internet gaming, this forum became a defacto social club. The concept became cemented with the nickname, "The Zoo" and many managed to offer many social events to incorporate this concept, such as the KOTZ tourneys. Furthermore, not only were o/t topics allowed, they were encouraged because many of the zooers became friends and it seemed natural to post many otherwise o/t topics or updates amongst your freinds. Finally, as a byproduct of the social convention, more leeway was awarded to those who had established themselves and became "respected posters."

Ok, fine, nothing out of the ordinary so far.

Nevertheless, this does not mean this social group is entitled to remain constant. Is there some "cutoff" date where one cannot join the club? Is it not more reasonable to expect that certain cliques may wish to congregate in smaller circles ... and form their own "spin-off" clubs or forums?

Well, that seems to have happened. Whether one chooses to participate in these for fun or profit, it does not matter, but soon, there will be individuals who prefer to spend more time and energy with "their group."

Well, "your group" cannot possibly remain constant on a huge traffic site such as 2+2. The Zoo will continue to change to reflect all of the participants.

As long as the core subject is discussed, there is nothing wrong with the forum ... but, there may very well be something wrong with YOUR idea of what this forum should be.

From what I see, most come to their idea of what "should be" based on WHO rather than WHAT.

[goodguy_1]

great post oski.In the end I only force myself to read the ZOO for value added ideas.Bonuses and tournies etc.That's the value for me.It's not worth getting into politics for me.I do enjoy it thu and most of the other forums on here and would miss it dearly if I couldnt access this stuff.

I tend to spread my bankroll over a large swath of rooms so I always like to know whats going on everywhere..If I miss a promo email,some bonus offering or tourney announcement there is a decent chance it will show up here! I had stopped playing bonuses of must kinds for half a year but have found them to be very profitable at many non-Party Rooms that have decent games.I must be making at least a $1000 a month just on poker bonuses over the last 2-3 months.I dont play the casino bonuses but seems to be alot of value there.

[Syntax]

I think I have ruined my chances of ever becoming a "respected poster" by challenging the one sacred topic of this forum.

All who do not worship at the alter of Party will never gain acceptance and will be branded "shills, affiliates, props, conspirators and such".

Newcomers have been warned.

You can add "Thou shall not respect Phill Hellmuth" to the rules as well.

[Homer]

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I think I have ruined my chances of ever becoming a "respected poster" by challenging the one sacred topic of this forum.

All who do not worship at the alter of Party will never gain acceptance and will be branded "shills, affiliates, props, conspirators and such".

Newcomers have been warned.

You can add "Thou shall not respect Phill Hellmuth" to the rules as well.

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FWIW, I've never understood the whole "respected poster" thing. As long as you present your ideas without treating others like [censored], you are a respected poster in my book. It has nothing to do with post counts, whether or not you like Phil Hellmuth, etc.

-- Homer

[OrangeHeat]

WOW - Just poking a little fun ala "what's wrong with the SS forum"...guess you missed it.

Everyone got serious around here...maybe that's what is wrong...

Orange

[Dilbert]

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WOW - Just poking a little fun ala "what's wrong with the SS forum"...guess you missed it.

Everyone got serious around here...maybe that's what is wrong...

Orange

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How dare you make fun of that great rkiray thread. You are not worthy. When TT starts bumping this thread daily, then this thread will start to reach epic monstrosity proportions.

[OrangeHeat]

I know I am a rkiray wannabe........it felt good to get that out.

Orange

[MicroBob]

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but to have 400 posts a week from someone who can't afford a $6-$12 fixed limit game is an illustration of what the internet forum has become.


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if there were a 'small-stakes internet' forum i would go to that one.

to the best of my knowledge, lori plays pretty small stakes too....and i'm sure other 'regulars' or old-guard members of this forum do also.
i'm really not certain why stakes-level has any relevance.


i realize that i've been hanging around here and posting a lot lately.

my increased frequency of posting coincides with me starting to play internet-poker 'full-time' and i just like reading or writing for something else to do while 'on the job'.
although i would probably be better off focusing on the tables a bit more and on these forums a bit less and/or adding a 5th-table instead of 2+2 to my screens (which i am doing every once in awhile, but not at this moment obviously).


sooner or later, i will run out of things to say and i'm sure most of 2+2 will live happily ever-after (if not 'happier' ever-after).


it has also occured to me that some of the old-guard is here much less often while i am here more often.
i just like exchanging ideas....and have also had my share of 'idea-exchanges' (re: disagreements) with quite a few around here.....but i certainly hope my increased presence is not related to the decreased presence of others.
but if it were....i'm not sure i would do anything differently....since i believe my opinion on certain matters is as valid as anyone else's.

[MS Sunshine]

"i'm really not certain why stakes-level has any relevance."

What limit you play matters little as long as you strive to be a winning player at whatever limit it is. IMO

MS Sunshine

[goodguy_1]

IF you make a good living off the game it doesnt matter what you play whether its B&M $15-30,multiple low limit games online or bigger action..whatever works for you consistently year in year out and gets money on the table to pay your monthly nut..whether that nut is $2K,$5K or $10K a month ..whatver."Good living" means making enough to live happily within your means and the lifestyle choices you have made.younger kids dont talk about this stuff but they will someday /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[BBill]

I think there is a misconception about "the misconception"

I think that would be called the "Immaculate conception"

[Simon Diamond]

There is no question that this is true. One of the problems with the forum is that it is run by penny-ante players. Bob seems like a nice lad, but to have 400 posts a week from someone who can't afford a $6-$12 fixed limit game is an illustration of what the internet forum has become.

I don't play poker. Does that mean I am technically scum and should ship my arse out of here?

Simon

[jasonHoldEm]

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I think that would be called the "Immaculate conception"


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I want a paternity test...

[Mr. Hutz]

Most of the "seniors" are old fart snobs who need to get a life.

[RollaJ]

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What limit you play matters little as long as you strive to be a winning player at whatever limit it is. IMO

MS Sunshine


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<font color="blue"> Behold: </font> The senior of seniors, member #9 himself has spoken! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Terry Funk]

Where did the Grey Poupon dude go?

[Blarg]

It's everyone's forum and yours at least as much as anyone else's, MicroBob. Some people are just snobs toward newer players or lower limit players, and that's just life and can't be helped. For what it's worth, and I'm sure I'm not alone on this, I can't remember ever seeing a worthless post from you, and have seen a lot of good ones, and actually start reading your posts confident that there will be something interesting in them.

As a lower limit player who still is paying the bills as a professinal and is happy and successful doing it, I even find your perspective on things and occasional tales from the table of unique value. There are not that many people doing the same who post or post well about it.

I agree with you. I am always looking forward to reading something from MicroBob, and consider him to be one of my favorite posters, /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[MicroBob]

Good gracious....thanks for the compliments gentlemen.

I have no idea why this thread was bumped.
I find it kind of interesting though in that it was only just this past June and July that I had NEVER stepped above 3/6.

I am now a proud regular at 5/10 and 10/20 on a couple different sites....although I still play a lot of 2/4 and 3/6 on party too (especially during certain hours).


I agree with MSSunshine's assertion (where the hell has he been lately anyway) that we are basically just trying to learn as best we can.

There are quite a few players MUCH better than me who regularly post in the SS forum who have never played higher than 1/2 or 2/4 or 3/6 and I wouldn't pretend to think that I'm a better player than someone just because I am now playing at a higher level. When Bison, sthief, sublime or others suggest to me or someone else how a certain hand should be played I'm listening. You'd be pretty stupid not to.
It's like saying "Of course you should raise KTo UTG. I play 20/40 all the time so I know what I'm talking about."


Some of the discussions in the MTT and SS forums make me feel like a freaking moron sometimes because there's some really sharp approaches out there. That's a GOOD thing though...I like the frequent reminders that I am definitely not even close to God's Gift of Poker as so many of my friends and family seem to assume.
The latest example is the DS "Interesting NL Situation" thread in the WPT forum. Daryn and others have some really intelligent takes on this hand that freaking blow my mind.


It is more apparent to me that Daryn certainly deserved the big prize he scored in Aruba (actually...he deserved way more than that) while I am quickly realizing (from reading that thread) how far behind the curve I really am.

[Freudian]

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That's politically incorrect.

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Yes. It's politically correct to call it "Internets forum".