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Scorpion
06-27-2004, 06:35 PM
PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets, CO calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero folds.

River: (9.70 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, CO calls, UTG+2 folds.

Final Pot: 11.70 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP2 shows Qh Kd (one pair, kings).
CO shows Td Jh (one pair, tens).
Outcome: MP2 wins 11.70 BB. </font>

afk
06-27-2004, 07:05 PM
You're getting almost 10:1 on a 6.67:1 draw here, while your ace outs might not be as squeaky clean as you want, I think you can safely call the turn here.

Vern
06-27-2004, 08:15 PM
What are your outs and what are your opponents like? On the Turn you want to see 1 of 5 cards since the As makes three to a flush, so there are 46 unknown cards and 5 that give you TPTK on an unpaired &amp; uncoordinated board. That is 41:5 or 8.2:1 odds. When the turn bet gets to you the pot is giving you 9.7:1 odds and you are closing the action. I call the turn bet here and fold if I don't hit an A or K on the river.

Vern

afk
06-27-2004, 10:35 PM
I don't like completely discounting the ace because it 'might make a flush'. Sure, adjust your odds a little higher, but I'm more worried about an any ace player hitting two pair if an ace falls. Nevertheless, I think this is a call.