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Ralph Wiggum

06-26-2004, 06:24 PM

These hands happened at different tables at nearly the same time. Hand 2 was dealt, right after when Hand 1 was wrapping up. I can't look at these hands objectively, so I need help. Where do I play differently?

Hand 1:
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP3 calls, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (15.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 21.75 BB
Main Pot: 21.75 BB, between Hero, UTG+1 and MP3. > Pot won by UTG+1 (21.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG+1 shows 8h 8d (four of a kind, eights).
MP3 shows Th Jh (two pair, tens and eights).
Hero shows Kd Kh (two pair, kings and eights).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 21.75 BB. 

Hand 2:
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, Button bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls, Button 3-bets, Hero caps, MP3 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 calls, Button caps, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

River: (23.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Button raises, Hero calls, MP3 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 35.50 BB
Main Pot: 35.50 BB, between Button, Hero and MP3. > Pot won by Button (35.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Kc Kh (two pair, kings and tens).
MP3 shows Qh Jh (straight, queen high).
Button shows 8s 8h (full house, eights full of tens).
Outcome: Button wins 35.50 BB.

Xiphoid

06-26-2004, 06:35 PM

I think you played the turn too aggressively on both of these hands.

Hand 1:

PF: Fine
Flop: Fine
Turn: Bet/call a raise
River: Check/call

Hand 2

PF: Fine
Flop: Fine
Turn: Seeing that both MP3 and button are still in it and the top card has paired, go into check/call mode for the rest of the hand. Heads up, you can probably lead with a bet here and call a raise. Check/call the river.

tech

06-26-2004, 06:41 PM

Hand 1: The flop check/call and turn c/r almost certainly mean you are behind. I call down from there.

Hand 2: When he raises the turn, you are beat. It is reasonable to plan to call down from there, but I fold when it is two bets to me on the river.

gojacketz

06-26-2004, 08:08 PM

I thought I was the only one that ran into monsters like that...

I too am of the idea that at this level, the check/call on the flop followed by check/raise on the turn by an EP player means that you are beaten most of the time. Occasionally if there is a Q or J on the board, it will mean top pair/top kicker, but more often it means set or thereabouts.

When I got check/raised on the turn, I would probably slow down and check/call unless you improve.

Gojacketz

Leo Bello

06-26-2004, 11:05 PM

Two hands in a row with KK, and losing both. Wrap your things and move tables. :-)