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jcx
06-24-2004, 01:24 PM
I realize many here could care less what the Bible says but if you believe in it at all this new development is extremely disturbing...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39114

Excerpts from the artice, the first being from the King James version and the latter this new "whimsical" translation:

1 Corinthians 7:1-2

KJV: "Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: [It is] good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."

New: "Some of you think the best way to cope with sex is for men and women to keep right away from each other. That is more likely to lead to sexual offences. My advice is for everyone to have a regular partner."

1 Corinthians 7:8-7

KJV: "I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I. But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn."

New: "If you know you have strong needs, get yourself a partner. Better than being frustrated."

Mark 1:4

Authorized version: "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins."

New: "John, nicknamed 'The Dipper,' was 'The Voice.' He was in the desert, inviting people to be dipped, to show they were determined to change their ways and wanted to be forgiven."

This is a blatant re-write of Biblical passages for the purpose of justifying todays "Alternative lifestyles". Now from a Libertarian perspective, I could care less what people choose to do. But one must choose to either accept the Bible, or dismiss it as legend and myth. Choose as you will. But the twisting of the written word to satisfy today's social mores is frankly sickening.

superleeds
06-24-2004, 01:49 PM
I wouldn't get to hot under the coller about it, The KJV was written with an agenda too.

bingledork
06-24-2004, 02:04 PM
Here's a newsflash:

The bible wasn't written by God.

It was written my men with their own prejudices and priorities. It may have been inspired by God, but men have a way of distorting the message. This new bible is no different.

elwoodblues
06-24-2004, 02:07 PM
The original version of the Bible wasn't in english. I'm sure the King James version has many questionably translated passages as well.

MaxPower
06-24-2004, 02:22 PM
Why do you think the Bible was written originally?

I don't care much about what the Bible says, but I care even less about what the World Net Daily says.

bdypdx
06-24-2004, 02:28 PM
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I realize many here could care less what the Bible says but if you believe in it at all this new development is extremely disturbing...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39114


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Nah. Not disturbing. Amusing though what people get so worked up about.

andyfox
06-24-2004, 02:29 PM
"[It is] good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication . . ."

I don't get the "neverthless." Shouldn't the correct word be "therefore"?

Zeno
06-24-2004, 02:29 PM
Every word in the bible is absolutely and unequivocally true, it is only the punctuation that is in doubt.

-Zeno


PS. And what's this 'The end is coming...' teaser title you so pointlessly slapped on the marquee? I was hoping for some article about the earth on tilt or too much dark matter foaming about interstellar space leading to an almost immediate implosion of the universe, or some other Good News; instead what do I find - Bible verses. Truly disappointing.

cardcounter0
06-24-2004, 02:34 PM
"But one must choose to either accept the Bible, or dismiss it as legend and myth."

Are you sure those are my only choices? And who put you in charge of my choices?

Thomas Jefferson used to write in the margins of his Bible, and tore out the passages he didn't like. Deal with it.

bdypdx
06-24-2004, 02:44 PM
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New: "Some of you think the best way to cope with sex is for men and women to keep right away from each other. That is more likely to lead to sexual offences. My advice is for everyone to have a regular partner."

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This isn't bad advice from a public health perspective. It would certainly cut down on STD's, AIDS and unwanted pregnancies.

I think the KJ version admonishes against masturbation as well. The new one will certainly promote it, as frequent masturbation helps prevent prostate cancer...

John Cole
06-24-2004, 02:54 PM
Imagine Melville inspired by this new version instead of the majestic cadences of the King James.

"Call me Buddy. I feel like jumping into line at the funeral home and going for a ride. Instead, I'm off to sea.
But I'm no different from you. We all like like the sea, pal. That's why all you rich guys buying up oceanfront property. But, hell, you're trapped in the office. I'm off after a whale."


Yuch.

andyfox
06-24-2004, 04:31 PM
"frequent masturbation helps prevent prostate cancer..."

Hmm . . . When I was having urological problems, and saw three different urologists, one of the first questions they asked was about my self-indulgence. And here I thought they were just being nosy . . .

Maybe that's why the chances of protate cancer increase as one gets older and less interested . . .

HDPM
06-24-2004, 04:45 PM
"But one must choose to either accept the Bible, or
dismiss it as legend and myth."


What if we say it is a tool of political oppression written by people who deliberately hoodwinked people in order to control them? I am not saying that is what it is, necessarily, but there are way more than 2 possibilities.

bdypdx
06-24-2004, 05:17 PM
New Scientist (http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993942)

Zeno
06-24-2004, 07:05 PM
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....instead of the majestic cadences of the King James.



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This is what the eternal skeptic Mencken had to say about the Authorized Version of King James [from Treatise on the Gods]:

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In English the Authorized Version of King James has been in use among Protestants since 1611…It is the most beautiful of all the translations of the Bible; indeed, it is probably the most beautiful piece of writing in all the literature of the world. Many attempts have been made to purge it of its errors and obscurities. An English Revised Version was published in 1895 and an American Revised Version in 1901, and since then many learned but misguided men have sought to produce translations that should be mathematically accurate, and in plain speech of everyday. But the Authorized Version has never yielded to any of them…Its English is extraordinary simple, pure, eloquent and lovely. It is a mine of lordly and incomparable poetry, at once the most stirring and the most touching ever heard of. That there are gross absurdities in it is apparent to everyone, but absurdities do no damage to poetry.

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And I agree; the sickly blandness of modern Bible translations would inspire no one.


From the KJV, Psalm 73 v. 9:

They that dwell in the wilderness shall bow before him; and his enemies shall lick the dust.

Remember this next time you sit at a poker table - you will be inspired.

-Zeno

Cyrus
06-25-2004, 02:07 AM
I like the Bible.

It's wise, it's the apothecary of a big part of wisdom of times past, it's decent pornography, it's harmless. Unless one takes it as sacred.

Because, as we all (should) know, there is nothing sacred. Nothing except what we choose to make sacred.