OK, Non-Discriminatory (hating everybody equally)Driving Pet Peeves

[HDPM]

Lets get past gender breakdowns in hating drivers.


1. Left Lane Idiots: Perhaps I have cussed worse when it is an old person in a motor home. But GTF outta the left lane. I really hate truckers who cut me off so they can take 6 miles to pass. And they spray rocks on me. I am on my third windshield of the year and might need a 4th after a rock tossed by a truck. He wasn't clogging the left lane at the time, but I really don't want to get rocked and look at the back of a truck for 3 days. The fact your truck with a governor can go 66.2 and the truck in front of you has a governor set at 65.9 does not mean you should cut me off to pass. Outta the way. Anybody who clogs the left lane is the lowest of vermin.

2. People who throw stuff out the window when I am behind them. Hate them. Am I your human ashtray?

3. People who park the wrong way on streets. Cops should wait and get them for driving the wrong way when they leave.

4. Those fart can things on compact cars. High performance exhaust I sort of get, but when I see the stupid can on a wreck...

5. Pickup trucks that don't signal turns. Oops, that's redundant.

And the most hated thing:

RVs of all sorts on 2 lane roads. These should be banned or pay a $100/mile fine directly to anybody they delay for more than one mile. I just love seeing a crappy 3/4 ton truck trying to pull a 5th wheel and a trailer with ATVs. Or multiple forms of "fun" strapped on. ATVs, motorcross bikes, dune buggys snow mobiles, boats, etc.... People spend a fortune on them and then drag them to ugly RV parks and sit in a lawn chair until it is time to drive something else around for fun. Park the fifth wheel, drive the ATV. Park that, drive the dragged Geo to get some balogna. Then come back and drive the go-cart. Then sit on a lawn chair and eat the bologna saying how great it is to get away from it all. In the meantime they have traffic backed up for 32 miles going home. Feh.

[namknils]

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2. People who throw stuff out the window when I am behind them. Hate them. Am I your human ashtray?


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This is the worst. Can someone explain to me why it is not litering when you throw your cigarette butt out the window?? I want all of these idiots to be fined.

This weekend I had someone throw a butt out the window right at my grill while driving down the highway. I get to smell that nasty thing for a mile or two coming thru my vents! /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[ThaSaltCracka]

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This is the worst. Can someone explain to me why it is not litering when you throw your cigarette butt out the window?? I want all of these idiots to be fined.

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Its a big fine in Washington. $1100 for throwing a cigarette butt outside of your car.

[ThaSaltCracka]

okay, you got the ball rolling. There are three things that I hate on the road more than anything else. Semis, busses and RV's. I hate how these things clog up the roads, slowing everyone down. Not to mention the enormous amount of damage these vehicles do to the road. Only one of these vehicles serves a practical purpose during the day, buses. RV's are ridiculous and Semi's should only be allowed to drive between 10pm and 6am.

[cardcounter0]

Pull your boat in your RV, throw cig butts out the window, yack on your cell phone, do what ever you want -- JUST GET OUT OF THE LEFT HAND LANE!

MO and KY are two States that actually ticket people for left lane driving. Drive on the right, pass on the left. Are you in left hand lane? Is there a car on your right? Then you aren't passing anybody -- GET OUT OF THE LEFT HAND LANE.

[namknils]

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This is the worst. Can someone explain to me why it is not litering when you throw your cigarette butt out the window?? I want all of these idiots to be fined.

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Its a big fine in Washington. $1100 for throwing a cigarette butt outside of your car.

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This is good to hear. There very well could be something similar here in IL too, but I'm not aware of it. I just hate seeing people throw them to the side of the road like they are nothing. If they don't want the disgusting things in their car what would make them think that the rest of us want them on the street?

[HDPM]

I think they got a guy around here who started a wild fire with a butt tossed out the window in a dry august. Here's your bill- 5000 acres burned, 10 houses, fire crew bill, airplane bill, LOL.

[ThaSaltCracka]

well one of the biggest things here is that during the summer they cause a lot of fires along the freeway. I have a friend who is a fireman in central Washington. They get calls almost everyday to put out brush/grass fires.... nearly all of which are started by cigarettes.

[Oski]

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Pull your boat in your RV, throw cig butts out the window, yack on your cell phone, do what ever you want -- JUST GET OUT OF THE LEFT HAND LANE!

MO and KY are two States that actually ticket people for left lane driving. Drive on the right, pass on the left. Are you in left hand lane? Is there a car on your right? Then you aren't passing anybody -- GET OUT OF THE LEFT HAND LANE.

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Autobahn: BIG fine for driving in left lane; its only for passing. Of course, if you go 140m.p.h. you are "perpetually passing" those on the left and its ok. Do not EVER pass on the right...you will be escorted to the border.

[Six_of_One]

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1. Left Lane Idiots

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This is the biggest one for me. I'm not talking about out on the open road, but driving around L.A. Nothing pisses me off more than someone driving 65 in the fast lane with nobody in front of them. Not only is it annoying, but dangerous too.

[John Cole]

Massachusetts recently began targetting those who drive in the left lane without passing, citing this as the number one cause of road rage.

Within the past two weeks, I have been cut off twice by older drivers who pulled immediately into the middle lane after entering onto the highway (no car was within two miles in front of either in the right lane).

Last week, while I was driving home from Boston on the VFW Parkway, a woman stopped dead in the middle of a rotary to answer a cell phone. (This, HDPM, is why I do not carry a gun.)

In general, anyone who drives on the VFW Parkway/Jamaica Way while on a cell phone.

Anyone who drives while talking on a cell phone.

Anyone who talks on a cell phone just about pissses me off, too.

[BadBoyBenny]

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I have been cut off twice by older drivers who pulled immediately into the middle lane after entering onto the highway (no car was within two miles in front of either in

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Good point John,

These slow pussies with nothing to do need to realize that the right lane is for them. Everyone slow driver seems to love the middle lanes where I live. I there's 3 lanes it should be slow, fast, and people who want to pass other fast drivers or people who need to pass slow drivers who are passing slightly slower drivers. (did that make sense?)
In light traffic, I can't maintain the pseed limit without using the right lane as the passing lane because there's always someone going speedlimit - 5 in the middle and speed limit - 4 in the left.

[Zeno]

The cigarette butt out the window is a big deal in most states of the west, at least. In Oregon, It is classified as not just littering but throwing something 'burning' out the window and the fines are (were?) very high. And you could be held responsible for consequences.

I am not sure of other states but they may also make this distinction about tossing 'burning'objects and plain littering from your vehicle.

-Zeno

[Zeno]

I automatically hate anyone who is ahead of me or in my way. Thus, I hate all equally. Egalitarianism. This makes me a Good Liberal. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

-Zeno

[TimM]

People who slow down while approaching green lights, and then either miss the light or just make it and make me miss it.

[Bubbagump]

You don't know what road rage is until you've driven in Rhode Island. I live in MA and commute every morning to my job in RI and I feel like I am taking my life in my hands every time I cross that border.

Rhode Islanders (all of them, not just some) ingnore Yeild signs. I've been rear ended because I Yielded when the guy in back of me expected me to keep on going.

Don't ask me why, but I 've seen more than one person, out of the blue come to a complete stop in the left lane of a major highway.

Rhode Islanders never use their turn signals.

Rhode Islanders will usually wait until the last possible moment to change lanes when they want to get on(or off) a highway. Is anybody familiar with the 99/146 Merge?

The rest of the country hasn't got anything on Rhode Island when it comes to bad drivers.

Bubbagump

[astroglide]

one of my least favorite maneuvers in driving is what i call an OLE: when somebody is driving at full speed, the person in front of them is slowing or stopped, and the person in front of you whips into another lane leaving you at full speed with a parked car about 3 car lengths in front of you.

[daryn]

haha.. a rare daryn laughs out loud moment. hahaha.... OLE!

[andyfox]

The guys who won't turn left on a green light after the green arrow goes off. If it don't say "Left Turn on Green Arrow Only," you can turn, you dips. After all, suppose you arrived at the corner after the arrow went off. How would you even know a green arrow existed?

[andyfox]

I hate it when either Yassir Arafat or Ariel Sharon is in the car behind me.

[ThaSaltCracka]

okay, I just thought of something new. the reverse cut-off. Say you turn right, and the person behind you does as well. You turn into the far right lane because thats the law, you then turn your signal on to try to change into the left lane, but in your rearview mirror you see the jackass behind you who just turned right go right into the left lane and speeds by you. [censored]..... or say you are driving down the street coming to a red light and you are about to pull into the center lane to wait for your left turn arrow, however the person behind you pulls into the center lane before you and before the yellow line has opened up for him too, I really hate that [censored]. I really don't think people undestand most of the traffic laws.

[jdl22]

OK I want you and other Washingtonians to clarify something here.

When you drive across the Columbia into Vancouver there is a sign saying something to the effect that it is illegal in Washington to drive in the left lane except to pass. However, people from Washington are brutal when it comes to left lane cruising. Here in Oregon if you are on I5 and you see somebody driving in the left lane with nobody within a couple miles ahead of them it would be +EV to lay odds that they have Washington plates. I'm not talking only near Portland where Washington drivers make up a sizable percent of those on the highway, but even farther South. I often drive from Eugene south to Roseburg on I5 and I would say 2 out of 3 times people are driving the speed limit permanently in the left lane their plates say "The Evergreen State" on the bottom. Some of these assholes even have a University of Washington bumper or window sticker.

[ericd]

I've got 3:

1. You are at a stop sign waiting to turn right. The person coming from your left turns down the street you are on without using their turn signal. It always seems there is a long line of cars after them that you must now wait for to pass before you can proceed.

2. You are the other car but intend on going straight. The person at the stop sign goes (when you are about 10 feet from the sign) causing you to slam on your brakes. They proceed to drive very slowly. Finally, they turn off. But as expected with no signal.

3. RUBBERNECKING

[Bubbagump]

People who yield their right of way. I know they think they are being polite an courteous. But I've seen more accidents and near misses, not to mention traffic jams caused by some 'boy scout' trying to do his good deed for the day by suddenly stopping to let someone at a stop sign make a turn when said boy scout clearly has the right of way.

I swear to god some times I think I'm the only person who ever went to Drivers Ed.

Bubbagump

[Bubbagump]

People who don't understand the concept of a 'Merge'. This goes right up my craw!

I almost followed some moron home one night after he almost ran me off the road trying to shave those, oh so precious 10 seconds off his commute by not merging with anybody at a 2 lane to 1 lane intersetion.

Sometimes I think these idiots use a stop watch to time their commutes.

Bubbagump

[AndysDaddy]

I see this one almost every day: Comming of a highway (or wherever) where there are two right-turn lanes. Almost without fail the car in the inside lane will turn right directly into (my) outside lane as if the other turn lane didn't exist. Idiots.

[HDPM]

I do the reverse cut off thing sometimes. If an idiot is in front of me and drives slow I will do it. I don't understand why a turn onto a nice wide street needs to take 3 hours. Your car is designed to handle at more than 5 mph. If the driver is reasonable I won't do it tho.

[HDPM]

Yeah, I hate that. It takes an extra 3 hours to go anywhere. Once somebody tried to yield their right of way to me and I tried to let them go. They wouldn't, so I started going. But then they started going. So I sat there with no waves, indications, etc.... until they went. It took them about an hour to decide what to do.

[ThaSaltCracka]

as far as I know the only vehicles not allowed in the left lane are semi trucks and RV's, unless it is a two lane road and thats the only way to pass someone. Otherwise they are not allowed in the far left lane. There is not a law that says people can only use the left lane for passing her either. A lot of people hop in the far left lane partly because it is the fast lane, and because its next to the HOV lane. I guess we are guilty of that here, but somehow it works.

[ThaSaltCracka]

you better watch yourself, it is illegal. I have been pulled over for doing it so thats why I don't do it anymore, and I am concious of it more often as well. I see people doing it all the time, actually I would say 80% of drivers do it, but it is actually dangerous. I am not sure if it causes accidents, but I am sure it leads to more road rage. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[cardcounter0]

They do it because they are too lazy to turn their car tightly into the proper lane, much easier to barely turn the wheel and swing wide into the other lane. (Besides this puts you immediately in the left hand lane, so you can drive slow and piss off the people trying to pass behind you.)

Also, I just love the people who cannot turn their car without almost coming to a complete stop. Then they slowly pull in leaving their ass end sticking out in the road for the longest time. Once you come to a stop behind them, then they get everything straightened out, and zoom off down the side street.

[ThaSaltCracka]

being lazy is never a good excuse for anything, especially something invloving heavy automobiles, but yeah I agree with you, I think thats the main reason people do it as well. My only hope is that they all will eventually get a ticket for doing it.

I drive a manual so I also get annoyed by what you are talking about. I hate having to down shift to 1 simply because someone is taking waaaaaay to long to move.

[ArchAngel71857]

1. The driver in the left lane driving just as fast as the person in the right. It's cool if you drive in the left lane but move over if people coming from behind you are driving much much faster. It's not cool to drive just as fast as someone but prefer to be next to them instead of 20 feet behind them or, God forbid, to accelerate and drive in front of them. I think they invented this in North Carolina.

2. Merge. Merge implies cooperation, one after the other, your lane, then my lane, etc. It does not imply accelerating to open a gap behind you.

3. What they invented in VA: If I am in the middle lane, and a car is driving behind me, a good 20 feet or so, and isn't gaining any ground, and I need to pass someone, why do they react to my turn signal like its the start of the Indifuckingapolis 500 and tear ahead of me so that after I pass into the left, I am stuck behind them because they now institute pet peeve #1. Did I insult their heritage in some other life?

4. You can turn right on red in all fifty states now, people. Unless there is a big [censored] sign that says "NO RIGHT ON RED." I seem to be stuck behind the drivers who see a sign everywhere, and in front of the ones who feel the four signs saying not to turn are optional.

5. The lines for the parking spaces should be on either side of your car. Don't split one down the middle.

6. In a traffic jam, people who lane hop thinking that one magically is faster than the other. Often a case of trying to predict which lane is not practicing #2 up ahead.

7. In a traffic jam people who pull out into the intersection thus blocking all people turning left and/or people driving across. If the lane ahead of you is blocked, wait at the damn line until you can fit your car behind the one in front of it without still being able to see the red light scolding you for being a complete and total fuckhead.

8. In a traffic jam, people who try and bypass everything by driving on the right shoulder. (Note: Just some proof God does exact revenge on your enemies, during the 2000 presidential campaign, Al Gore made a visit to my city. As
I was driving on the interstate cloverleaf to merge, two police patrol cars and two motorcycles pulled in front of everyone and slowly halted traffic to give Gore a clear shot from the airport to wherever he was going. I didn't really mind, figuring it was some secret service thing, although traffic was backing up fairly fast. Well sure enough, some jackass thinks he is just going to pass everyone on the right shoulder. The four cops didn't think too highly of that. They ticketed him after he had to stop right behind their car parked on the shoulder. When traffic resumed, they kept him there until God knows how long. I was about thirty or so cars back from the whole thing, and was out of sight before they let him go.)

9. I'm assuming you didn't use your turn signal because it's broken. In that case, may I remind you of the hand signals to use. Mostly the one I am giving you. That's right, extend your arm, and extend your middle finger.

10. This isn't a trend, but a funny story that happened to me. I was on a two way street and pulled to a stop sign. The main road was one way and didn't have a stop sign. I had to make a left turn onto the one way street. I pulled up and put on my turn signal. and waited. and waited. and waited. for a good give minutes before there was an opening. Meanwhile, a driver pulled up across from me and wanted to go straight. As my opening came, I pulled out into the intersection and was shocked to see the other driver halfway through, slamming on their brakes and honking their horn as I drove by and narrowly missed a collision. I put up my hands in a "WTF are you doing?" gesture, to which she reminded me of the hand signal in number 9. No "oh my gosh, I totally messed up and its a good thing we didn't crash look of apology," (which would have been fine) but a full on, F YOU for daring to obey basic traffic laws, middle finger. I was too shocked I just flicked her off back. I take pleasure in knowing that if she tells this story to her boyfriend, or anyone for that matter, he will inform her that she was in fact wrong, and never to drive again (this isn't to show that all women drivers are bad, just this particular one who happens to be a woman).

11. One time my friend got a ticket for following too close.

12. To bring up an old George Carlin joke, ever notice how everyone driving faster than you is a maniac, and everyone driving slower than you is moron?

-AA

[Bubbagump]

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5. The lines for the parking spaces should be on either side of your car. Don't split one down the middle.


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I will trump your #5 with the people who park in imaginary parking spaces.

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[J.A.Sucker]

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[ArchAngel71857]

I will trump your #5 with the people who park in imaginary parking spaces.

Speaknig of imaginary parking spaces. The parking garage near my office has those little shortcut gaps between the asecending and desecnding ramps. One day I will sit and wait for the dumbasses who park in the imaginary spaces blocking the gaps thus forcing the rest of us to drive 3 levels up and back down and hit them on the head with a tack hammer, because they are a RETARD!! (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=667350&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=1&vc=1)

-AA

[TimM]

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10. This isn't a trend, but a funny story that happened to me. I was on a two way street and pulled to a stop sign. The main road was one way and didn't have a stop sign. I had to make a left turn onto the one way street. I pulled up and put on my turn signal. and waited. and waited. and waited. for a good give minutes before there was an opening. Meanwhile, a driver pulled up across from me and wanted to go straight. As my opening came, I pulled out into the intersection and was shocked to see the other driver halfway through, slamming on their brakes and honking their horn as I drove by and narrowly missed a collision.

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Doesn't someone going straight have the right of way over someone turning across their lane, regardless of how long you've been waiting?

[ThaSaltCracka]

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Doesn't someone going straight have the right of way over someone turning across their lane, regardless of how long you've been waiting?

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No, at a stop, whoever is turning has the right of way.

[paland]

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Doesn't someone going straight have the right of way over someone turning across their lane, regardless of how long you've been waiting?

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No, at a stop, whoever is turning has the right of way.

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You better not drive in California, because the person going straight has the right of way. And I'll bet they do in most states.

[ArchAngel71857]

The person who gets to the stop sign first has the right of way.


Edit: The law does not grant the right of way to anybody. The person who gets to the stop sign second must yield to the person who got there first.

-AA

[paland]

No. My wife got a ticket doing exactly that. She thought the same as you do. The yield to the first auto at the intersection applies to 4 way stops or 3 way T stops only.

"When you turn left, give the right-of-way to all vehicles approaching you that are close enough to be dangerous. Look for motorcyclists, bicyclists, and pedestrians. On divided highways, or highways with several lanes, watch out for vehicles coming in any lane you must cross. Turn left only when you can see that it is safe."

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/pgs19thru22.htm#othervehicles

[ArchAngel71857]

No. My wife got a ticket doing exactly that. She thought the same as you do. The yield to the first auto at the intersection applies to 4 way stops or 3 way T stops only.

Well, looks like I am the [censored] then.

PetPeeve 13. People who drive like me and assume they do nothing wrong.

-AA

[paland]

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Edit: The law does not grant the right of way to anybody.

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Oh, you'll notice that the top of this page is titled, "Right of Way Laws" (Not trying to be a jerk or anything)

[ArchAngel71857]

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Edit: The law does not grant the right of way to anybody.

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Oh, you'll notice that the top of this page is titled, "Right of Way Laws" (Not trying to be a jerk or anything)

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No, it still doesn't affirmatively give the right of way to anybody, it just tells the person they should yield. But, ackhem, back to pet peeves (lawmakers and lawyers being one of them).

-AA

[ThaSaltCracka]

it says when there is a stop sign "Yield to vehicles already in the intersection or just entering it. Also, yield to the car which arrives first or to the car on your right if it reaches the intersection at the same time as you do. At a “T” intersection, without STOP or YIELD signs, vehicles on the through road have the right-of-way. " Therefor the first there has the right of way. In his case, they both have a stop sign.

If there was no stop sign then "When you turn left, give the right-of-way to all vehicles approaching you that are close enough to be dangerous." This is referring to turning left from the center lane. You must yield to any oncoming trafic which may be "close enough to be dangerous".

He clearly has the right of way here, however this may not be the true in every state.

[ArchAngel71857]

He clearly has the right of way here, however this may not be the true in every state.

Well it wasn't in California, so it really doesn't mater, but thanks!
-AA

[ThaSaltCracka]

true, hypothetically if it was he would though /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[BeerMoney]

Women that aren't masturbating while they're driving.

[B00T]

I have gotten a ticket for flicking a cigarette out the window. It was on Rte 9 up in Poughkeepsie NY. $200 fine. It is one of those "Super safety" roads upstate in NY, where if you sneezed out the window of your car, you would be pulled over for doing something morally wrong.

[smudgex68]

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According to the latest statistics, that's only 1 in 5 of the female driving population. Makes you think doesn't it!

[elwoodblues]

You make it sound like they did something wrong for ticketing you. Why were you flicking a cigarette out the window? Was it because it you didn't want to put it in your ashtray --- didn't like the look of it --- thought that it littered up your car?

[tyfromm]

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I have gotten a ticket for flicking a cigarette out the window. It was on Rte 9 up in Poughkeepsie NY. $200 fine. It is one of those "Super safety" roads upstate in NY, where if you sneezed out the window of your car, you would be pulled over for doing something morally wrong.

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You sir deserve the death penalty. One thing I cant stand is a polluter of our environment.

[ArchAngel71857]

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I have gotten a ticket for flicking a cigarette out the window. It was on Rte 9 up in Poughkeepsie NY. $200 fine. It is one of those "Super safety" roads upstate in NY, where if you sneezed out the window of your car, you would be pulled over for doing something morally wrong.

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You sir deserve the death penalty. One thing I cant stand is a polluter of our environment.

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I can't tell, are you Pro or Anti Bush?

-AA

[Rushmore]

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Pull your boat in your RV, throw cig butts out the window, yack on your cell phone, do what ever you want -- JUST GET OUT OF THE LEFT HAND LANE!

MO and KY are two States that actually ticket people for left lane driving. Drive on the right, pass on the left. Are you in left hand lane? Is there a car on your right? Then you aren't passing anybody -- GET OUT OF THE LEFT HAND LANE

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I cannot agree enough. I don't care if I'm driving at the speed of light, if there's nobody in front of me and there's someone approaching from behind, I am out of the lane immediately. I will never understand the mentality that many folks seem to have that says "I am doing the speed limit, so i have a right to stay in the left lane."

Just get out of the lane. It doesn't matter if I am speeding. Let me pass. You are in my way, and you are driving in the passing lane. You are unbearable to me. I hate you.

Sorry.

There IS one more egregious infraction, however.

MOTORCYCLISTS (or anyone, actually, but especially MOTORCYCLISTS) weaving in and out of traffic at 80 miles per hour, driving down the middle line, etc.

These scumbags are the worst of the worst.

Oh. Wait a minute. I got someone worse. Hold on a second here.

Drumroll, please...The worst scum of all time on the freakin highway are...

PEOPLE WHO PASS ON THE SHOULDERS WHEN TRAFFIC IS STOPPED. YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY GO FLYING PAST YOU ON THE SHOULDER WHEN YOU AND EVERYONE ELSE ARE AT A STANDSTILL? THE ONES WHO SEEM TO FEEL THAT THEY HAVE A RIGHTFUL SPOT A QUARTER MILE AHEAD OF YOU IN THE TRAFFIC, EVEN THOUGH YOU'VE BEEN SITTING THERE LONGER?????!!!!!

Death is too good for these people.

In deference to decorum, I won't tell you exactly what I think ought to happen to these people.

[HDPM]

One time I was coming back down from the mountains and a motorcycle guy was going nuts down a nasty grade when it started to rain. He was splitting lanes, weaving, etc... at 90-100 I would guess. The weather got bad enough that other motorcyclists pulled under overpasses and stuff to avoid rain and hail. Both my wife and I commented what a jackass he was. Later on there was a major traffic jam because of an accident. And of course I was cussing and going nuts at the delay like an idiot. All the usual invective, 'What idiot got in an accident. The weather was just a brief thunderstorm. What idiots. better not be gawkers, &%#$@*&% bla bla bla." SO then we got up to the accident and there was a car that had been rear ended by the motorcycle. There was very little left of the motorcycle. The car was bashed in really bad and the motorcycle remnants were all under it. The rider was under a sheet. They had taken his boots off and all you could see sticking out from under the sheet were his dead blue feet. It freaked my wife out because she hadn't seen a fresh dead person who had died a nasty death. The sheet had any gory parts covered, so you couldn't see much, but she was still all upset. And I felt just slightly guilty about cussing and getting mad when the guy is laying there dead. I got over it tho. Applied karma I guess.

[Bubbagump]

I don't feel the least bit guilty when some Shite head gets what he deserves for driving like an idiot. Because most of the time when these idiots are acting like they own the road and end up in an accident, it's in innocent victim under that sheet.

@#$% him, he deserved it.

I hate listening to Bikers complain about how 'nobody looks out for us'. While this may be true to some extent, every near miss accident I have had that involved a motorcycle, was because the motorcycle driver was driving wrecklessly.

Bubbagump

[Allan]

Even worse is when there is a power outage and traffic lights don't work. Takes the 4-way stop to a whole new level.


Allan

[snakehead]

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MOTORCYCLISTS (or anyone, actually, but especially MOTORCYCLISTS) weaving in and out of traffic at 80 miles per hour, driving down the middle line, etc.

These scumbags are the worst of the worst.


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how does this affect you? sounds like sour grapes to me.

[Homer]

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MOTORCYCLISTS (or anyone, actually, but especially MOTORCYCLISTS) weaving in and out of traffic at 80 miles per hour, driving down the middle line, etc.

These scumbags are the worst of the worst.


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how does this affect you? sounds like sour grapes to me.

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How does this not affect him? Sounds like you are one of these motorcyclists.

[george w of poker]

i hate it when you are pulling up in an empty lane to a stop light with your blinker on getting ready to turn right on red and then somebody from the left lane cuts over into the right lane in front of you and sits there waiting for the light to turn green because they are going straight. argh!!!

why do you care which way people are parked on the street?

i don't care if i'm behind them or not, i hate seeing people
throw [censored] out of their cars.

people that use the exit only lane on the freeway to cut in line in traffic.


and the biggest one of course is someone driving slow in the left lane. i can't figure out how these people have made it through their whole lives with noone telling them that the left lane is for passing.

[HDPM]

Yeah, but I am sure Snakehead has made it down the grade I was talking about many times and is still here to get on peoples' case. So he has more on the ball than the one I saw at least. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Rushmore]

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how does this affect you? sounds like sour grapes to me.

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Nope. Wrong. They are endangering my life and the life of my honey in the passenger's seat.

Maybe you're not clear on the type of driving I'm talking about. I'm talking about weaving and narrowly missing the front bumber of one car and then the back bumper of another and then the front of another, all at 90 miles per hour.

This only serves to increase the likelihood that someone on the highway will be killed.

If you disagree, you are not being objective.

P.S. Did you ever notice that when you see this sort of thing, a lot of the time, there are two or even three of them? I guess they feel like rebellious badasses, riding their purple and bright yellow motorcycles, dreaming of Vin Deisel or Ice Cube.

What a joke. No real biker I have ever known (and I have known my fair share over the years) would ever ride that way on the highway.

I guess maybe they're not out to impress or intimidate. They just want to be left alone to enjoy their Moto Guzzi or Ducatti or Harley or Triumph or BSA or whatever.

OK. Maybe they want to impress each other a little bit.

But you get my point.

[snakehead]

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Sounds like you are one of these motorcyclists.

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guilty.

[snakehead]

the bikers might be endangering themselves, but they pose very little if any threat to you. if one were to hit your bumber, you might not even feel it. and if you are following the car in front of you so closely that you think the bikes are causing you a problem, you are following too close.

whatever you do, don't come to california. out here, we ride right up in between the cars. to hell with weaving in and out.

[Rushmore]

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the bikers might be endangering themselves, but they pose very little if any threat to you.

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You're wrong about this. All it takes is for one driver to swerve to avoid them, and we're talking scarlet windshield on the inside.

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whatever you do, don't come to california. out here, we ride right up in between the cars. to hell with weaving in and out.

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I lived in San Francisco for eight years. I have seen "you." I'm sure y'all are proud of yourselves.

[paland]

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the bikers might be endangering themselves, but they pose very little if any threat to you. if one were to hit your bumber, you might not even feel it. and if you are following the car in front of you so closely that you think the bikes are causing you a problem, you are following too close.

whatever you do, don't come to california. out here, we ride right up in between the cars. to hell with weaving in and out.

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I don't mind the bikers riding between cars. On another point, I saw some bikers with colors on and their name was "Iron Souls". This might be an old group and shows how out of touch I am. But I thought the name was neat.

[baggins]

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Doesn't someone going straight have the right of way over someone turning across their lane, regardless of how long you've been waiting?

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No, at a stop, whoever is turning has the right of way.

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You better not drive in California, because the person going straight has the right of way. And I'll bet they do in most states.

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I am pretty sure this is the case in most places. Straight always has right of way over people turning left.

[elwoodblues]

Then the motorcyclists will buy "Start seeing motorcycles" bumber stickers for their cars.

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Left Lane Idiots

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There are two kinds of left lane idiots. There is the kind that won't get out of the left lane and force you to pass on the right, or is in the left lane so he can pass somebody who is going 1 mile per hour slower than him.

There is also the kind, that regardless of the fact that there is a solid stream of traffic in both lanes, with the left lane moving faster, expects everyone in the left lane to get out of his way because he wants to go 90 and the solid stream of traffic is only going 65, and tailgates 2 feet off the rear bumper of anybody who won't move to the slower right lane because he's so important the whole world should clear a path for him.

I hate both kinds

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People who yield their right of way. I know they think they are being polite an courteous. But I've seen more accidents and near misses, not to mention traffic jams caused by some 'boy scout' trying to do his good deed for the day by suddenly stopping to let someone at a stop sign make a turn when said boy scout clearly has the right of way.

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Amen. There is a variation that is really annoying. On several occasions, while waiting in the left turn lane to make a left turn off of a busy four lane street, I have had one of these fools in the oncoming left lane stop to let me make my turn. Only one problem: There's still traffic in the other lane. Not only has he done me no good, he is now blocking traffic behind him. What do these people use for brains?

[TimM]

Here's one: Your on a main road, and are approaching a side street on your right with a car waiting at a stop sign. The driver has plenty of time to go, but waits.

Once you are right on top of him, he realizes that since a lot of time has passed while he was waiting, he must have had plenty of time to go. So he decides to go right then, cutting you off badly.

[snakehead]

people who think like you are the reason poker games are always good.

[Rushmore]

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people who think like you are the reason poker games are always good.

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People who think they shouldn't have their family's lives endangered by assholes on the road are the reason that poker games are good??

Oh, yeah. Now that you mention it, that's true.

You know, after I got out of rehab for the third time, I decided that losing street cred, losing the respect of junkies and other street vermin, and losing The Edge that I was living on was really a fair tradeoff for not ending up dead in the gutter.

Guess I should take up motorcycles, weave in and out in traffic, watch the old ladies marvel at my stupidity as I play fast and loose with their lives on my shiny stupid purple and pink bike, impressing my friends, and making poker games better for all of you James Dean types.

Oooh. I just get a chill thinking about it.

Do you wear a leather jacket with, like, SKULLS on it??

[snakehead]

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You know, after I got out of rehab for the third time

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suddenly, your attitude is starting to make sense to me.

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Do you wear a leather jacket with, like, SKULLS on it??

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no son, I don't. and I don't have to call people assholes to make my point.

[Rushmore]

Sorry, pops.

When you intimated that my disdain for everything that smacks of fake bravado and reckless badassedness was the reason that poker games are so very good these days, I simply took that to be something of an insult. If I was wrong, I stand corrected, humbled, embarassed, and otherwise ashamed.

Aaah, hell. I stand that way anyway.

Sorry, bud. I was outta line.

I just hate those damned motorcyclists and their devil-may-care attitude, with the wind in their hair and the open road calling out to them.

OK. Sorry. I got lastworditis.

[Punker]

I could barely drive today noticing people doing all the things listed in this thread.