Something I can just never believe when I see it

[eastbay]

I play in the $109 PP SnGs. My wallet thanks these folks, but I am continually incredulous when I see stuff like this:

A guy makes a big preflop raise in L2, bets his stack down in increments of about 250 down to about 50 chips, getting called all the way, checks on the river, and then folds when his opponent bets his last 50 into a pot of ~2000.

What planet do these people live on?

Is there any kind of warped thinking which can even attempt to justify this?

eastbay

[Girazze]

Seen it many times and you can only sit there and wonder!

[AtlBrvs4Life]

Could be the planet of collusion.

[eastbay]

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Could be the planet of collusion.

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Interesting idea. I actually hadn't thought of that.

eastbay

[Girazze]

Me neither.....but that would be against the rules so it can't possibly happen. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[AtlBrvs4Life]

The guy folds with 50 chips so he doesn't have to show the rest of the table that his hand is worthless.

Collusion is the only reason I can see for anyone calling and folding like this.

[Hood]

I was about to reply and say 'perhaps he had absolutely nothing, and was sure to lose it'.

Then I remembered a hand the other day. I was (I'm sure there's a good reason) totally bluffing. Bluffed on the flop, turn and river. Was called on every single street. Won the hand with my 82o. IIRC, board was something like AJT43.

[Filip]

My first thought was chipdumping.

[37offsuit]

I've seen this happen too. Usually it's a big draw that misses, say an open ended straight flush draw, where the person bets the flop, gets called and thinks that betting again on the turn will force the person out. When it doesn't, they hope to check it down at the end. When they get bet into with nothing, they don't know that you should probably still call. Maybe they think they can mount a miracle comeback.

[Prickly Pete]

The chip dumper would almost always be better off by not dumping his chips. If you were to collude, you'd want to keep your stacks even not give all your chips to one guy.

It's most likely stupidity, not cheating.

[Beavis68]

or stupid people cheating.

[sprmario]

Had something like this happen to me last night. Had AT and the flop came T high. I bet big and was called. Turn was a J, and I bet big and was called. I messed up and had typed in a number 100 too small on the turn so I had 100 left in a T1500 sized pot. I bet my 100 and he folded... I was shocked!

[Richie Rich]

Not sure what others said, but have you considered "collusion"?

[edge]

Chip dumping would be dumb, as you'd have to guarantee that the person who doubled up finishes in first or second, or you're losing money on the two buy-ins. I think some players just see that they can't beat the board, and fold, or are convinced that they've lost.