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Joe Kewl
06-17-2004, 03:50 PM
10$ sitngo on stars

here is the play:


*********** # 18 **************
PokerStars Game #492149605: Tournament #1857363, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2004/06/17 - 13:45:20 (ET)
Table '1857363 1' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: glocks (1360 in chips)
Seat 2: sayhayy (2080 in chips)
Seat 3: Scotch78 (1225 in chips)
Seat 4: JoeKewl (2730 in chips)
Seat 5: bill4131 (1345 in chips)
Seat 6: bigj32 (1440 in chips)
Seat 7: Bo_Diddler (1100 in chips)
Seat 8: ironchef1 (2220 in chips) is sitting out
sayhayy: posts small blind 25
Scotch78: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to JoeKewl [5c Ac]
Scotch78 said, "beat my KJs"
JoeKewl: calls 50
bill4131: folds
bigj32: calls 50
Bo_Diddler: folds
ironchef1: folds
glocks: raises 150 to 200
sayhayy: folds
Scotch78: folds
JoeKewl: calls 150
bigj32: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [9h 3c 4c]
JoeKewl: checks
bigj32: bets 50
glocks: raises 450 to 500
JoeKewl: raises 500 to 1000
bigj32: folds
glocks: raises 160 to 1160 and is all-in
JoeKewl: calls 160




regardless of the results, was it right to push her in? or how else do i play this hand?


Peace and Love,
Joe

razor
06-17-2004, 04:06 PM
run your HH thru bisonbison's Converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi) for a nicer looking and easier to read post.

UCF THAYER
06-17-2004, 04:23 PM
2 comments about your play:
1) You dont want to be playing a5 suited, especially UTG. It's not a very good hand, especially in a no limit tourney, since most players will make you pay dearly for your draws.
2) The reraise all in by you isn't a bad play, BUT ONLY if theres the chance hes gonna fold, if you are certain that he would call your reraise all in, it's a bad play, and i would recommend folding under those circumstances.

Jason Strasser
06-17-2004, 05:25 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Dealt to JoeKewl [5c Ac]
JoeKewl: calls 50

[/ QUOTE ]

So you called 50 UTG in a (probably) lively 10 dollar sng.

I stopped reading there, this is not a playable hand by any stretch of the imagination from here. I fold AJo, KTs, KJo, many times KQo here without a thought.

I don't care if you are a huge stack, you can not disregard position and loosen your starting hand requirements to this degree. Fold preflop, I didn't even read the rest of your post.

Joe Kewl
06-18-2004, 10:16 PM
Yeah, playing it was proably not the best idea in the first place, but, i felt i had a good read on gl. Plus, i viewed her as a tight player. I knew she wouldnt play a hand she didnt have, and i also knew she didnt hit, so i decided to push her. I assumed she would fold, but she re reaise me to the extra 160 she had. I believe i was even favored 55% to 41%. But the play was inteded to make her fold. Thanks guys


Joe

Joe Kewl
06-19-2004, 12:06 AM
Strassa,

Thank you for your very blunt remark. I watch you play. I am a good friend of gc danno and he has been teaching me alot. He too told me it wasnt a smart play, and i was rewarded as such. But, it was great to hear from someone that i know does well.


Joe

Beavis68
06-19-2004, 12:12 AM
your pre flop action wasnt good, but your post flop was. you had 16 outs or so. Worth the push.

Nemesis
06-19-2004, 04:13 AM
well crap, couldn't get teh hand to show up like i wanted... anyway. Like they've said fold or if you must reraise. On the flop, it's a pretty good push, i like this play, and i use it a lot. When they fold it's awesome, when they call and you hit it's awesome. When they call and you bust/get crippled it sucks. It gives you a wild image though when you do get caught doing it.

Michael Davis
06-19-2004, 05:45 AM
I don't see why you stopped reading and can't respond to the postflop play. It seems if you really can't analyze it because you wouldn't have been in this situation, you would have great difficulty getting inside your opponents' heads, as hopefully they are often playing stuff that you don't.

-Michael

patrick dicaprio
06-19-2004, 11:26 AM
even if you call here UTG, which you probably shouldnt, i would have folded to the raise. but having said that, on the flop i think it was the right play to push. you have a lot of outs, at least 13 and maybe 15.

Pat