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chim17
06-14-2004, 01:25 PM
Party 10+1, 2nd hand, I'm UTG with AA and raise to 60 (10/15 blinds). 5 people get all in before it gets back to me.

Being 10+1 I assume I'm one of the better people at the table. If I win the hand I'll be virtually guranteed first place. If I lose the hand I'm obviously out, if I fold I will have 740 chips with 5 people left and one substantial chip leader.

Which move do you make?

TylerD
06-14-2004, 01:31 PM
No shadow of a doubt in my mind. CALL. You are getting ~ 5-1 with the best possible hand preflop, if you get sucked out on, play the next one.

gergery
06-14-2004, 01:45 PM
If this tournament is critical and one-of-a-kind, you might have an argument for folding if circumstances are just right.

If this is an SNG and you can play another identical one in 2 minutes then the answer is obvious. Think $ won per hour, not $ per tourney.

-Greg

Poker Jon
06-14-2004, 02:02 PM
I'd have my chips in the middle quicker than a porn star in a nudist colony.

Jon

blackaces13
06-14-2004, 02:05 PM
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if I fold I will have 740 chips with 5 people left and one substantial chip leader.


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If you fold there'd be 6 people left wouldn't there?

I'd call it. I'd never pass up an opportunity to get all in pre-f with AA.

SeppDeitrich
06-14-2004, 03:21 PM
with this many people all in pre flop, if you can assume that they are going all in on reasonable hands, then aa figures to do better than it would against a feild of 5 random hands.
this is because your opponents are more likely than normal to be looking for the same outs. I would expect to see someone turn up ak/aq while someone else would likely have kk or qq

MrTop
06-14-2004, 03:29 PM
Hello. This is my first post here on this forum. It looks like a nice place.

I absolutely feel that you must call here, especially in a $10 SNG tourny.

chim17
06-14-2004, 03:40 PM
I definately agree in a normal SNG you gotta push and just go with it.

I was glad another posted touched on the fact of the different types of tournies which may make you want to fold this after all. If this was a rare satellite type tournament does anyoens answer change? Assuming you can outplay the rest of the field does anyone fold assuming you can't just start another one?

jedi
06-14-2004, 03:44 PM
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I definately agree in a normal SNG you gotta push and just go with it.

I was glad another posted touched on the fact of the different types of tournies which may make you want to fold this after all. If this was a rare satellite type tournament does anyoens answer change? Assuming you can outplay the rest of the field does anyone fold assuming you can't just start another one?

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This is still all pre-flop action, I don't think I have the best hand, I KNOW I have the best hand. The only time that I wouldn't push in this situation if I had a last longer bet against someone and even then, it depends on how much the last longer is for.

B Dids
06-14-2004, 03:45 PM
Seems like an easy push- if only because you've got to figure a lot of the outs that beat you are in other people's hands.

I was able to talk like 4 people in my last SNG to go all in on the basis of a bus I told them I was going to miss. They handed all their chips to somebody, I took them away from him, I win.

Tosh
06-14-2004, 03:58 PM
This is an easy call. Seriously there are far more difficult decisions every SNG, don't waste time worrying about this one.

chim17
06-14-2004, 04:05 PM
Situation wasn't exactly like I described, but very close. Few of my poker buddies said it was a clear fold, as you can live with lots of chips. Their only good point was that it was in our home game (as opposed to Party), and that I busted out and was done for the night.

edit: Their point wasn't that good, as I still want to do whats most profitable.. was just curious what peoples survivability thoughts were.

Thanks for the comments.

jedi
06-14-2004, 04:11 PM
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Situation wasn't exactly like I described, but very close. Few of my poker buddies said it was a clear fold, as you can live with lots of chips. Their only good point was that it was in our home game (as opposed to Party), and that I busted out and was done for the night.

edit: Their point wasn't that good, as I still want to do whats most profitable.. was just curious what peoples survivability thoughts were.

Thanks for the comments.

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Did they give the same advice to the other 5 people who went all-in before you?

chim17
06-14-2004, 04:13 PM
No, they knew me to be good and questioned it.. we were at another game which was really really fishy.

We'll be going back soon. /images/graemlins/wink.gif