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Saborion
06-08-2004, 08:39 PM
This is not a whine post. At least it's not suppose to be. You guys hear more than your fair share of those as it it, and I certainly stand for more than my fair share of them.

After what now clearly was a VERY good run for me for the first 20k hands of 2/4 and the first 10.3k hands of 3/6, I'm a loser for the last 19k hands of 3/6 and 2/4.

As far as I know, 20k hands is not enough to show your true win rate. It'll given you an indication though. What I wonder though, is how likely it is that you, after playing a total of 69k hands at two limits, are a loser for the last 19k of those hands? Losing streak occur, I know they say a B&M player can be a loser at the end of a year. Assuming 35 hands per hour, 170 hours per month, those 19k hands can be worked through in little over 3 months. I assume though that when they in general speak about a loser after one year of B&M play, they are refering to someone playing a little higher than 2/4 and/or 3/6?

Still, doesn't sound as being a loser after 19k hands is anything to worry about? 19k hands is not that much.

What I'm looking for is feedback on the numbers I provide here, how common it is with losing streak this long (short) and so on.

The numbers:
6.7k hands of 3/6 for a profit of -$445 = -1.1 BB / 100
12.5k hands of 2/4 for a profit of $153 = .31 BB / 100
Total 19.2k hands for a profit of -$291 = -.19 BB / 100

Not much of a loser, more breaking even I suppose. Anyway, if you've been around for a while and could supply some information about various streaks, numbers etc, I'd appreciate it. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

MarkD
06-08-2004, 09:25 PM
What is your SD/100 at the various limits?

Saborion
06-08-2004, 09:33 PM
43.2k total hands of 2/4 with a SD of 13.5 BB / 100.
Last 12.5k hands of 2/4 my SD have been 13.6 BB /100.

25.7k total hands of 3/6 with a SD of 12.8 BB / 100.
Last 6.7k hands of 3/6 my SD have been 12.8 B / 100.

TheRake
06-09-2004, 11:19 AM
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43.2k total hands of 2/4 with a SD of 13.5 BB / 100.
Last 12.5k hands of 2/4 my SD have been 13.6 BB /100.

25.7k total hands of 3/6 with a SD of 12.8 BB / 100.
Last 6.7k hands of 3/6 my SD have been 12.8 B / 100.

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Saborion,

These numbers seem low. Are you sure these are BB/100? They seem more inline with BB/hr. Actually they even seem low compared to my SD in BB/hr /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

TheRake

Vazh
06-09-2004, 03:24 PM
How do you figure this? Is it in PT somewhere?

MarkD
06-09-2004, 11:42 PM
Yes. session notes->more details

Duke
06-10-2004, 07:23 AM
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These numbers seem low.

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I disagree. When I was diligently using pokertracker, I had an SD right around where he is, though I play a few more hands.

Recall that he plays fewer hands than you, by a lot.

~D

davidross
06-10-2004, 08:33 AM
3 times over the last 12 months I have had losing streaks of approximately 24,000 hands, and like you it wasn't a big loss, but clearly below what I made the rest of the year. I'm sure it will turn around for you shortly.

Saborion
06-10-2004, 09:09 AM
Yes. They are BB / 100.
I'm tight. Too tight according to my numbers compared with most other 2+2:ers.