Best hand preflop against AA is 76s?

[AA suited]

ok, i read a post from someone with 1000+ posts that says the best hand preflop against AA is a 76s?

If that's true, how the heck???

[RollaJ]

it makes starights that dont connect with the aces, and flushes

[Sheriff Fatman]

They were wrong - 65s is marginally better than 76s vs AA

Sheriff

[MaxPower]

No its not true. The best hand pre-flop against AA is AA.

See this thread (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=&Number=217577&page=&view= &sb=5&o=&fpart=)

[Thythe]

Haha, of course its AA, but the best non AA hand is 65s

[jdl22]

If that's surprising you will also find the worst hand against aces surprising - A9o where the guy with aces has an ace of the same suit as the nine. This makes sense if you think about it but is surprising at first.

[J_V]

This should not be suprising. It's a concept you MUST understand to have any chance of becoming good at Texas Holdem.

[jdl22]

Agreed. However the first time somebody hears this tends to be before they understand the game well. Like I said it's surprising at first but when you think about it a bit it makes sense.

[Gotmilk]

How is 56s better than 67s? Weird math LOL. the 5 hits the ace!

[tiltboy]

For the record, AA is a 76.9:23.1 favorite over 65s (assuming suit is different from either Ace) and AA is a 77.0:23.0 favorite over 76s.

[Mackas]

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How is 56s better than 67s? Weird math LOL. the 5 hits the ace!

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Might be something to do with the fact that to make any str8 you need a 5 or a T? though why it would matter that its in your hand and not on the board I don't know - anyone else any ideas?

[Gotmilk]

the whole 5 or T thing is silly. but what is also silly is that the 56 doesnt need to ace to make a straight and im a total retard.

[illunious]

According to twodimes,

red suit connectors vs. black aces

wins / losses / boards / tie
56s 391582 1314307 1712304 6415
67s 391637 1315168 1712304 5499
78s 391672 1315602 1712304 5215

[Mackas]

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the whole 5 or T thing is silly. but what is also silly is that the 56 doesnt need to ace to make a straight and im a total retard.

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I agree but can't think of anything else. Its completely unimportant but i am curious as to why the 56 is better. Does anyone know?

[Mackas]

Sorry, should point out that I agree the 5 or T thing is silly, not that you're a retard /images/graemlins/tongue.gif.

GL

Mackas

[Tater10]

The A2345 str8 is counterfeited - only the nut straight works. There is no winning wheel - if 2345 comes up, that makes a str8 to the 6 for 56.

[M.B.E.]

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How is 56s better than 67s? Weird math LOL. the 5 hits the ace!

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As Bozeman pointed out here (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=308760), the 65s has more ties with AA than 76s does. In particular, the boards 6-7-8-9-T and 7-8-9-T-J occur more frequently when the AA is against 65s rather than 76s.