DeathDonkey
06-06-2004, 01:20 AM
Here are a few hands from today where I got into the dreaded missed flop with overcards situation. Some criticism and advice on these hands would be very much appreciated, as I still have a hard time with this common situation...
Hand 1: I bet the turn because I honestly thought I had the best hand. Should I have taken a free card here?
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.
River: (6.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: 6.75 BB
Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+2 shows Ks As (flush, ace high).
Hero shows Ah Qd (one pair, fours).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 6.75 BB. </font>
Hand 2: Should I have folded after getting raised on the flop? No way can I get out then right? After picking up the nut draw on the turn I had to call there too right? Can't call with Ace high on this river can I?
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.
River: (8.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 9.25 BB
Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+1 doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 9.25 BB. </font>
Hand 3: I think this is the most standard of the three...please point out any mistakes though, I never feel good about hands like this. It's like I get to congratulate myself on saving the most money possible while still controlling the action
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50. UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds.
Flop: (9.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.
Turn: (6.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.
River: (6.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero folds, BB folds.
Final Pot: 7.75 BB
Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG wins 7.75 BB. </font>
Thanks again in advance,
DeathDonkey
Hand 1: I bet the turn because I honestly thought I had the best hand. Should I have taken a free card here?
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.
Flop: (7.50 SB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls.
Turn: (4.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls.
River: (6.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: 6.75 BB
Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+2 shows Ks As (flush, ace high).
Hero shows Ah Qd (one pair, fours).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 6.75 BB. </font>
Hand 2: Should I have folded after getting raised on the flop? No way can I get out then right? After picking up the nut draw on the turn I had to call there too right? Can't call with Ace high on this river can I?
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)
Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.
Flop: (6.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.
River: (8.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero folds.
Final Pot: 9.25 BB
Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+1 doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 9.25 BB. </font>
Hand 3: I think this is the most standard of the three...please point out any mistakes though, I never feel good about hands like this. It's like I get to congratulate myself on saving the most money possible while still controlling the action
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)
Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP1 posts a blind of $0.50. UTG posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG (poster) checks, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds.
Flop: (9.50 SB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.
Turn: (6.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.
River: (6.75 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+2 folds, Hero folds, BB folds.
Final Pot: 7.75 BB
Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG doesn't show.
Outcome: UTG wins 7.75 BB. </font>
Thanks again in advance,
DeathDonkey