09-23-2001, 08:44 PM
My 5th ever 10-20 foray. I am in a fairly tight game at the Regent with 2 loose players at the table. I am up about $200 and have a solid table image.
Loose Tricky (LT) is 2 UTG. Will limp with any suited connector (beat me with a 34s from up front about 30 mins prior to this hand). He has some awareness, however and is not stupid. Has shown me some respect.
Loose Aggressive (LA) is 3 UTG. Raises any legit raising hand, as well as any suited connector and big unsuited connectors. Raises more from up front to narrow the field and improve his chances of winning if the flop misses anyone. Everyone at the table is aware of this, including LT. He will bet until someone plays at him, so it is often profitable to let him keep betting rather than raising him and scaring him out of the hand.
The hand:
PREFLOP:
LT limps, LA raises. All fold to me in the BB. I look down and see As5s. I would normally fold here, but against these 2 players, I call.
Question #1: Does anyone reraise here? Against these 2 players I think there is a good shot I have the best hand.
FLOP:
Js 7s 2s
I flop the nut flush on an unbelievably benign board. With my image, I think they will fold if I bet and I am certain LA will bet regardless of his holding, so I check. LT checks, LA bets, call call. We all see the turn.
Question #2: Anyone lead at the pot or checkraise? I think that either option wins me the pot right there, so I decide to give them some more rope to hang themselves with. Good plan?
TURN:
Js 7s 2s 5d
With me just calling the flop, I am again certain that LA will bet. He is eyeing me (not suprisingly most of my pots have been won against him). I check, LT checks, LA bets. I don't want to lose LT so I call again.
Here is where it gets interesting. LT most likely has the same read of LA as I do. He RAISES! LA suprisingly calls. I decide that with 2bb's already in front of each of them, it's time to decloak and reveal myself, so I raise to $60. LT and LA muck their cards in near unison.
Question #3: Did I maximize my POTENTIAL earn here? I don't want to be too results oriented here. I want to know if the 3-bet on the turn is the right move considering the players and the board.
I think I did, but I'm not sure. If I just call, they will both be suspicious. After I call the 2nd BB on the turn, I cannot count on LT to bet for me on the river, and LA is almost certainly done betting. That means that if I call the turn, I have to lead at the river and that is just as supsicious as a turn raise.
Therefore I raised figuring that 1. They might have a big spade and would take one off regardless. 2. They might have a set and would call. 3. They might already have a flush and will be forced to call me down. Two pair is almost impossible with that board so they would have to have a set to have outs vs an obvious flush. I figure I am much more likely to get them to call with one card to come than with no cards to come.
All thoughts appreciated. As I start to push into middle limits I am really trying to make sure my thought processes are correct.
Thanks,
Clark
Loose Tricky (LT) is 2 UTG. Will limp with any suited connector (beat me with a 34s from up front about 30 mins prior to this hand). He has some awareness, however and is not stupid. Has shown me some respect.
Loose Aggressive (LA) is 3 UTG. Raises any legit raising hand, as well as any suited connector and big unsuited connectors. Raises more from up front to narrow the field and improve his chances of winning if the flop misses anyone. Everyone at the table is aware of this, including LT. He will bet until someone plays at him, so it is often profitable to let him keep betting rather than raising him and scaring him out of the hand.
The hand:
PREFLOP:
LT limps, LA raises. All fold to me in the BB. I look down and see As5s. I would normally fold here, but against these 2 players, I call.
Question #1: Does anyone reraise here? Against these 2 players I think there is a good shot I have the best hand.
FLOP:
Js 7s 2s
I flop the nut flush on an unbelievably benign board. With my image, I think they will fold if I bet and I am certain LA will bet regardless of his holding, so I check. LT checks, LA bets, call call. We all see the turn.
Question #2: Anyone lead at the pot or checkraise? I think that either option wins me the pot right there, so I decide to give them some more rope to hang themselves with. Good plan?
TURN:
Js 7s 2s 5d
With me just calling the flop, I am again certain that LA will bet. He is eyeing me (not suprisingly most of my pots have been won against him). I check, LT checks, LA bets. I don't want to lose LT so I call again.
Here is where it gets interesting. LT most likely has the same read of LA as I do. He RAISES! LA suprisingly calls. I decide that with 2bb's already in front of each of them, it's time to decloak and reveal myself, so I raise to $60. LT and LA muck their cards in near unison.
Question #3: Did I maximize my POTENTIAL earn here? I don't want to be too results oriented here. I want to know if the 3-bet on the turn is the right move considering the players and the board.
I think I did, but I'm not sure. If I just call, they will both be suspicious. After I call the 2nd BB on the turn, I cannot count on LT to bet for me on the river, and LA is almost certainly done betting. That means that if I call the turn, I have to lead at the river and that is just as supsicious as a turn raise.
Therefore I raised figuring that 1. They might have a big spade and would take one off regardless. 2. They might have a set and would call. 3. They might already have a flush and will be forced to call me down. Two pair is almost impossible with that board so they would have to have a set to have outs vs an obvious flush. I figure I am much more likely to get them to call with one card to come than with no cards to come.
All thoughts appreciated. As I start to push into middle limits I am really trying to make sure my thought processes are correct.
Thanks,
Clark