Thanks

[Nick B.]

Knowing that I have been way too passive on the river (only a 1.13 agression factor on pokertracker, over 3 on flop and over 2.5 on turn), I went into today looking to value bet on the river as much as possible. The recent threads about value betting the river have helped me greatly and I just wanted to thank the forum. Although I may have just been running good ( I only played 700 hands), I felt like I value bet the river a lot more and my aggression factor was 3.93.

A couple hands from the session. These may seem like easy value bets to most, but I have been very passive on the river.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: TEPop84 TETEPop84%%%%%A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. UTG posts a blind of $10.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 caps</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (14 TETEPop84#####) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 3-bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (11.50 TETEPop84*****) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 bets</font>, CO calls, SB calls.

River: (14.50 TETEPop84*****) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, TEPop84 calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 19.50 TETEPop84*****
<font color="green">Main Pot: 19.50 TETEPop84*****, between TEPop84 and SB.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by TEPop84 (19.50 TETEPop84*****).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows Kh Jc (one pair, jacks).
TEPop84 shows Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: TEPop84 wins 19.50 TETEPop84*****. </font>

That hand had I checked the river, which normally I would probably do, the CO may have bet and the sb c/r and I would fold the winning hand.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: TEPop84 is Button with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, TEPop84 checks.

River: (3.75 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 5.75 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 5.75 BB, between TEPop84 and UTG.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by TEPop84 (5.75 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG shows Qh 5h (one pair, fives).
TEPop84 shows Jc Jd (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: TEPop84 wins 5.75 BB. </font>

That was a standard river bet, but one that I most likely wouldn't make.

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed)

Preflop: TEPop84 TETEPop84%%%%%T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 TETEPop84#####) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 bets</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4.25 TETEPop84*****) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, TEPop84 checks.

River: (4.25 TETEPop84*****) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">TEPop84 bets</font>, BB calls.

Final Pot: 6.25 TETEPop84*****
<font color="green">Main Pot: 6.25 TETEPop84*****, between BB and TEPop84.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by TEPop84 (6.25 TETEPop84*****).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows 6c 7c (one pair, sevens).
TEPop84 shows Ts Td (one pair, tens).
Outcome: TEPop84 wins 6.25 TETEPop84*****. </font>

[naphand]

Hands 2 and 3 standard. Hand 1 is a classic example of a good value-bet and call.

The Turn check is a giveaway far more often than not (hands 2 and 3) so easy to value-bet here. But how many times do I catch myself checking hands like #1? It is soooo easy to lapse into weak-mode esp. on a bad run of suckouts. I think it has been said before but it's worth re-stating: value-betting is part of the bedrock of a winning players armoury. It probably adds 1BB/hr (maybe more).

Hey Nick - you were winning 3BB/hr not making these bets? /images/graemlins/smile.gif The rest of your game has to be pretty strong....

[Gazza]

Maybe you wern't running good Nick, you had just selected your table well. SB's who calls 3 bets with KJo and then continues to cold call with dodgy overcards ....well they are a dream aren't they?
A river agg factor of 3.93 - wow thats big. Am I to assume that mine of 1.5 is still way too low?

[Ulysses]

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TEPop84

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That's you? Haha. Good to know. Yeah, you play well and you have pretty good table selection.