Pot Odds to make me call turn

[Wada]

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Preflop: Wada is MP1 with 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, Wada calls, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks,

Flop: (6 SB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Wada checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Wada raises</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls, Wada calls.

Turn: (8 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Wada checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, BB calls, Wada calls.

River: (11 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, Wada checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 11 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
BB shows Ad Jc (one pair, jacks).
Wada shows 8s 9s (high card, jack).
Button shows Ts Ah (one pair, tens).
Outcome: BB wins 11 BB. </font>

Was this correct to call - Im unsure with the pot odds and outs. I believe I was getting 7:1 pot odds on 8 outs which is something like 5:1 odds. So by calling on the turn it was a correct play with +EV right?

And this next hand was correct to fold?
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Preflop: Wada is MP2 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, Wada calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, Wada calls, Button calls.

Flop: (9 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Wada calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Wada folds, Button folds.

River: (8.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows Qh Qd (one pair, queens).
UTG shows Td Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins 10.50 BB. </font>

[bisonbison]

Why did you check-raise the flop?

[sublime]

dont worry about the turn.

your flop play was poor. you had the pot odds to call your GSD(adding 1 out for runner flush), but raising makes little to no sense.

[Wada]

I think semi bluff - Heck...now that I think about it I dont remember actually. Well why not? Or should I have just bet?

[Wada]

I dont understand... remember Im novice. Can you explain it better

[bisonbison]

You have an inside straight draw and a backdoor flush draw. You do not have a betting hand. If you wish to continue in this hand (which is probably not advisable), you're going to want to go as cheaply as possible.

[Wada]

Ok...think I see what you guys are saying -by raising I was not giving myself the correct pot odds. I made it worse. A check/call would have been ok? or bet?

[B Dids]

I suck at math, but how are you getting 8 outs.

1 for the back door flush, 4 sevens. Where's the other three?

Hand 2- fold preflop.

[Wada]

I did not consider the flush once the Jd hit on the turn. I calculated 8 outs after the turn - needed a 7 or Q to make the straight on the river. 7777,QQQQ = 8 outs.

[brian0729]

Hand 1: What is the flop raise trying to accomplish?

Hand 2: Fold preflop, Call the turn.

[bisonbison]

An inside straight draw (meaning any card of one rank will give you a straight) gives you 4 outs. A backdoor flush draw is like another out or 2.

You're getting 9:1 to call a bet on the flop. With 5 outs, you need 8.5 to 1. It's a very marginal call. But it's one you can make. Raising or betting yourself is just throwing money away.

[B Dids]

Gotcha, I was just thinking on the flop.