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joker122
06-03-2004, 09:32 PM
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Hand 1:
Villian here is typical.
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (5.33 SB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (3.66 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.66 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
No showdown. UTG wins 6.66 BB. </font>

Hand 2:
No reads here. I suspect some will disagree with my flop play here.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+2 caps</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (21.33 SB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls.

Turn: (12.16 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, <font color="CC3333">Button bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (15.16 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 15.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+1 shows Kd Kh (two pair, kings and queens).
MP3 shows 7c 7d (two pair, queens and sevens).
Button shows Ac Ad (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: Button wins 15.16 BB. </font>

Hand 3:

Wow, I really screwed this one up.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (10.33 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(5 players) </font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (8.16 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

River: (10.16 BB) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.16 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG shows 9c 4c (full house, nines full of sixes).
Hero shows Jh Js (two pair, jacks and nines).
Outcome: UTG wins 14.16 BB. </font>

Hand 4:

Villain here is LAG and pretty fishy. A real jackass too, but that's besides the point.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (8 BB) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: (10 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+1 shows Js 4s (flush, queen high).
Hero shows 6h 6c (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 12 BB. </font>

Hand 5:
No good reads here.

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

River: (7 BB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Results in white below: <font color="white">
UTG+1 shows Ad Tc (flush, ace high).
Hero shows Kd Kh (flush, king high).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 13 BB. </font>

Fudomyo
06-03-2004, 11:39 PM
Lets see.

On hand one, I would have checked the turn. You bet the flop which is great, because that lets you check the turn.
I'd have called the river after that. He could be bluffing or have 2 pr.

Hand 2. Well I wouldn't put them on AK, but on high pairs. You never know though. So it's more like an inside str8. 11:1 but you were getting 12:1. Gotta fold the turn though, so I think you did well folding the flop. I'm sure I'd have called....

I agree on hand 3. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Hand 4, I'd surely raise the turn, if even just to be a pain in the ass for later. I'm sure you were ahead here.

Sucks to be you on hand 5. I'm sure I'd do the same.

joker122
06-04-2004, 12:01 AM
Thanks for your input, Fudomyo. Anyone else?

Fnord
06-04-2004, 04:18 AM
Hand 1:
Ditto, check the turn. Check/Call the river.

Hand 2:
I like the flop fold. You're drawing to the sucker end of a straight. If a 9 comes you're not even happy with your hand. On top of all that, given the pre-flop action it looks like some big pairs might go nuclear or are slow playing a set.

Hand 3:
Check/raise screams a 9. I think a 6 would wait for the turn to pop you. I don't like this river bet at all.

Hand 4:
I like it.

Hand 5:
Wow that sucks. Otherwise looks fine.

DeeJ
06-04-2004, 08:53 AM
Hand 1
All is fine imho. I agree with the turn bet because if he's playing an ace it's going to be uncomfortable for him to call. If he's obviously playing a Queen (or slow playing the King) you were right to fold. Some players will raise flush draws, I don't know about this guy.

Hand 2
10 handed preflop you are a little aggressive for my liking mid pockets often sink me .. flop I'm not folding OESD for 1 bet tho especially if the preflop action is shouting pocket pairs (but AK to definitely worry about because AK comes out at a higher frequency than high pocket pairs)

Hand 3
UTG is a terrible player to open with 94. No read, huh? Flop is fine but when u get to the turn any 9 or 6 and you're dogfood. He has to be ahead on the river, too, checkraising....

Hand 4
I'm calling on the flop. Higher pockets plus oesd would scare me here. Looking at the results, he really is LAG tho.
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Hand 5
This is close on the river. Raising the turn might have got rid of him tho, but he's got the odds to chase the nut flush. You have too, but your outs aren't outs /images/graemlins/mad.gif .

DeeJ
06-04-2004, 09:14 AM
Hand 2, he's getting over 20:1 for the cost of a single small bet and probably sufficient odds for a subsequent bet to a raise. The turn sucks, of course, and I agree we're history there. If the turn was an 8, especially a non- /images/graemlins/heart.gif you're way ahead and can raise on the river.