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eMarkM
06-03-2004, 09:46 AM
Tonight is $20+1 Pot Limit Omaha. Yeah, one of those games where you get four cards. Post all your KotZ8 stuff related here. Good luck to all participating tonight.

Tosh
06-03-2004, 09:54 AM
$20 bounty of Vinny even if he's in the money. If he wins I'll give him $50. If I knock him out I will have had my revenge.

TheGrifter
06-03-2004, 10:35 AM
I've never played Omaha, but what they hey, can someone send me the password plz?

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 10:44 AM
I sent it to you, your donation is appreciated.

Toro
06-03-2004, 11:44 AM
I am noticing quite a few intending to play tonight, including me, that rarely or ever play Omaha. My prediction is that one of the clueless will win!

DougBrennan
06-03-2004, 11:49 AM
Since so many, including myself, are PLO Omaha novices, I propose a new challenge.

Anyone want to take me on in a Last Shorter Bet? /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Doug

nolanfan34
06-03-2004, 11:53 AM
[ QUOTE ]

Anyone want to take me on in a Last Shorter Bet?


[/ QUOTE ]

Oh, you can't compete with me there. Ask Tosh, he saw me get run off the table in quick fashion in a SNG the other day. I think I lasted about 5 hands. With 4 cards there are just WAAAAAYYYYYY too many fun draws to chase.

I really hope I can make my first Zoo event tonight, and will try to be there. The 6:00 pacific start time is slightly tough since I get off from work at 5:30, but hopefully I will make it.

If I do, enjoy my $20, whoever wins.

jedi
06-03-2004, 12:04 PM
For the first time in several tournaments, I'll be playing. So, I'll be donating my $20 to some deserving soul. I'll also probably be showing up late, but that can't be helped /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Tosh
06-03-2004, 12:09 PM
I've played 3 more SNGs after those 2 and placed in all 5. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

nolanfan34
06-03-2004, 12:46 PM
Well...if you can beat the PS $5 SNG's, you're my pick to win for sure! Let alone beating the .01/.02 PL game...

Tosh
06-03-2004, 12:48 PM
Yes top quality credentials. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

TheGrifter
06-03-2004, 12:53 PM
Toro - How about a 10 dollar last longer between us Omaha amateurs?

mrbaseball
06-03-2004, 01:00 PM
Not that it matters because I suck at all forms of Omaha but is this O High or O8?

In either event I feel I will put up a good defense of my fish of the month title from last month /images/graemlins/smile.gif

GWB
06-03-2004, 01:01 PM
PLO huh?

Does this mean that Israelis are not allowed to participate?

steeser
06-03-2004, 02:16 PM
Can someone send me the password please. BTW, I know nothing about Omaha.

Al_Capone_Junior
06-03-2004, 02:52 PM
I am willing to take on anyone for a $1 last longer side bet! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I also have a prediction...

Someone will win, but it probably won't be me! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

al

Tosh
06-03-2004, 02:58 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I am willing to take on anyone for a $1 last longer side bet! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

I also have a prediction...

Someone will win, but it probably won't be me! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

al

[/ QUOTE ]

You're on!, prepare to er .. well just prepare.

Al_Capone_Junior
06-03-2004, 03:02 PM
well if you are right, I am a shoe-in to win!

al

Acesover8s
06-03-2004, 03:09 PM
The player to knock me out of the tourney before we reach the payed places will receive $21, PROVIDED that they hold a hand that is the EV favorite (per twodimes.net) on the street where the majority of the money went in.

This money will be tripled if the opponent is holding trips in his hand.

Toro
06-03-2004, 03:53 PM
You're on!

GrannyMae
06-03-2004, 03:55 PM
i cashed out my stars roll after the wsop qualifiers. i'll make a depo if needed, but if anyone will trade $21 stars dollars for paradise dollars, please post here. i won't be back until 7.30 or 8 and will PM you if you post here. if it is someone i know, just transfer me $21 to GrannyMae and i will transfer you the paradise dollars before the tourney when i return

tyvm

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edit:

if you put the $21 in my account, please post it here so nobody else does it too.

thx again

DougBrennan
06-03-2004, 04:19 PM
Granny,

I have just transferred $21 to your Stars account, though it has not yet been verified as approved--but I can't imagine that it won't be.

You can PM me for arranging the transfer on Paradise.

You sat on my left during the KOTZ that I won, and knowcked out William who was sitting to my right, so I figure I owe you at least this much. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Doug

edit: transfer was approved!--also, i was going to edit my typo
[ QUOTE ]
knowcked out William

[/ QUOTE ]
but I kind of like the way that looks.

wayabvpar
06-03-2004, 04:57 PM
Ok- time for KotZ to knock me out of the tailspin I have been in lately. Last time I was running bad going into a KotZ event, I went on a tear soon after.

I still think the password for the PLO tourney should have been Arafat.

dogmeat
06-03-2004, 05:01 PM
I'm worse at OMHL than Linda Lovelace was at keeping her mouth shut, but I'll play (and get the new Bonus at Stars). Please post or PM me the password. Thank you.

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 05:07 PM
It's PLO, that's Pot Limit Omaha-Hi Only. Though it would be fun to watch you go all-in on a 568 board while you're holding A2xx. I'll send you the password.

dogmeat
06-03-2004, 05:10 PM
LMAO. I'm even worse at Hi. Still, I'll be there if I can.
Thanks.

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Al_Capone_Junior
06-03-2004, 05:55 PM
OK! A buck it is! Side bet good no matter what the finish!

al

p.s. you and me heads up at the final table! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

dmk
06-03-2004, 06:35 PM
anyone wanna do a LL side-bet w/ me?

VinnyTheFish
06-03-2004, 07:07 PM
Tosh:

Right back at you. I will give you $20 if you knock me out, in the money or not. Sorry, but no bounty on your head.

William
06-03-2004, 08:04 PM
Justin, do you want a LL bet? 50 or 100$

Let me know.

William

GrannyMae
06-03-2004, 08:11 PM
my HERO doug.. tyvm

pls PM me your paradise name. btw, there is a toejam-nightgown coming 2 weeks from yesterday, so maybe that $21 will be good karma for you there.

thx again!!

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dmk
06-03-2004, 08:35 PM
LL? someone? anyone? :O

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 09:14 PM
Good turnout for a game no one's ever played /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Tosh
06-03-2004, 09:16 PM
Well I didn't get much chance to play. One of these days I'll play a KotZ without a bad beat, sorry just moaning. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Whoever knocks out Vinny come collect your reward.

GrannyMae
06-03-2004, 09:46 PM
you are the last person i wanted that to happen to btw. i gave all your chips away.

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Tosh
06-03-2004, 09:53 PM
[ QUOTE ]
you are the last person i wanted that to happen to btw.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm just being curious, but why ?



Enjoyed the last week playing this PLO, it seems no hand is that big a favourite over any other. Getting the money is preflop doesn't appear to be a great tactic on balance.

salty
06-03-2004, 10:00 PM
Its a game for limpers really

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 10:05 PM
If you can get AAxx heads up, then you want to be all-in preflop. That's how I've built my stack so far. Got all-in against another player's overplayed KKxx and another against a short stack. But a lot of times raising is for buying the button and building a pot for when you hit the flop.

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 10:11 PM
now who owes me money!

Tosh
06-03-2004, 10:14 PM
Yeh thats how I've been playing aces - how did I do with that hand out of interest? One thing I've found, in the later stages of multis especially, is when I have AAxx against preflop aggression its also AAxx.

GrannyMae
06-03-2004, 10:49 PM
I'm just being curious, but why ?

cuz' i am just getting to know you. if you were a close friend it would be a blast to suckout like that. if i hated you, it would be even funner.

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Tosh
06-03-2004, 10:54 PM
Ah ic, fair enough.

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 11:06 PM
I'd post all the names and such, but I'm chip leader fighting for the Crown and the $$. If someone else wants to do the summaries, please go ahead. I don't think Simon is around tonight.

William
06-03-2004, 11:09 PM
Weel transfer both the $$$ and the crown to me, then you'll be able to post /images/graemlins/grin.gif

William /images/graemlins/grin.gif

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 11:10 PM
Ok, it's break. Final table is as follows:

Zimba (just finished 9th)
DaGrifter
jpg777
MobyDick
hototogisu
Tharg
dogsballs
eMarkM (your chip leader)
CCass

Top five pay tonight. 1st is $328.

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 11:12 PM
Is between me and William, both of us at final table. He has to finish ahead of me. If I finish in top 3, I will take the crown regardless of William's finish. According to my unofficial calculations.

jpg777
06-03-2004, 11:40 PM
My best KOTZ finish yet. Too bad it was on the bubble though. Good game everyone.

eMarkM
06-03-2004, 11:56 PM
I'm out 7th. William needs 2nd or better to take over my lead. It's three handed now with William the short stack.

ps all preliminary calcs.

dogsballs
06-04-2004, 12:16 AM
Just squeaked it over Tharg.

Could have gone either way - though actually he had me back on the ropes for a good while after taking a decent pot off me. So I had to pull out my secret weapon and rely on luck to bring me home /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/smirk.gif.

Another fun tourney (and finally a return from one /images/graemlins/smile.gif...I was close to sending Simon Diamond a bill for getting me into these things in the first place).

eMarkM
06-04-2004, 12:21 AM
An illustrative Omaha hand:

Folded to me short stacked at 7 handed table in SB and I get

9d 8d Js Jc

vs chip leader CCass calling my raise with

7s 6s 5c As.

Flop is 5d 7d Tc

Now CCass is ahead of me here with bottom two pair vs my Jacks, but he's a big dog in the hand. I'm in the lead here as I have a 21 outs. Nines outs to the diamond flush, I can out 2 pair him T for another 2 outs. I have straight draw outs as well, any 6, 9, J or Q for another 10 outs. Twodimes has me at 68:32 favorite though I'm behind on the flop. I bet the pot and CCass sets me all-in.

On the turn comes the 9s, one of my 21 outs, and I have the straight. Now I'm a 9-1 favorite to double through. But he gets his miracle 5h to give him the boat and he eliminates me.

n1stunnor
06-04-2004, 12:24 AM
Good job bro.

eMarkM
06-04-2004, 12:24 AM
I am King again, though the margin is very slim between me, Vinny and William.

My prelim top 5 in KotZ standings:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
eMarkM 853.37
VinnyTheFish 849.31
William 848.06
C M Burns 711.30
ZeeJustin 706.65
</pre><hr />

Piers
06-04-2004, 12:27 AM
Congratulations, nice game /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

Should probably not have called that final bet but wanted to try that luck thing /images/graemlins/frown.gif.

CCass
06-04-2004, 12:29 AM
Good thing I don't know how to play Omaha, or I probably would have folded...lol

My second final table, and my second finish in the money as well. Another fun and exciting tourny.

dogmeat
06-04-2004, 12:29 AM
Congratulations to the winner! I enjoyed playing against you all, sorry I couldn't make the cash but was happy to get to the final table (Zimba).

Dogmeat /images/graemlins/spade.gif

dogsballs
06-04-2004, 01:57 AM
Ah, Dogmeat.

I started thinking you were talking to/about me.

Simon Diamond
06-04-2004, 02:49 AM
Very well done dogs, I'm pleased you have finally 'done' it in a KotZ tournament. Sorry I couldn't be there, but I had to hit the sack early last night.

Simon

VinnyTheFish
06-04-2004, 07:36 AM
Congrats all!

Keep my throne warm!

William is that your cell phone in your pocket, or are you just happy to be in 3rd? A little too close for my male ego!

As frustrating as it was, it was fun as always! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

William
06-04-2004, 09:42 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Congrats all!

Keep my throne warm!

William is that your cell phone in your pocket, or are you just happy to be in 3rd? A little too close for my male ego!

As frustrating as it was, it was fun as always! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm happy, but shhh...don't tell anybody... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

W.

Tosh
06-04-2004, 10:23 AM
So Ed, do I owe you the $20 ?

eMarkM
06-04-2004, 10:25 AM
Is this for the VinnyTheFish bounty? Then, yes, I did knock him out.

Tosh
06-04-2004, 10:58 AM
Ok its sent. Enjoy! /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Acesover8s
06-04-2004, 10:59 AM
Hey, good job Doggy-dog!

I do have to say however, I was concerned with your play, it was perhaps a little too solid. You are aware the KOTZ tournies are MUST-DRINK events, yes?

More booze and less thinking next time please.

Potless
06-04-2004, 02:04 PM
WD Dogs - explains why you been playing plo Stars so much, cant wait until November when I stop ****ing and start playing zoo tourneys again.

dogsballs
06-04-2004, 02:08 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Hey, good job Doggy-dog!

I do have to say however, I was concerned with your play, it was perhaps a little too solid. You are aware the KOTZ tournies are MUST-DRINK events, yes?

More booze and less thinking next time please

[/ QUOTE ]

Hah! You caught me out. I wasn't drinking; the time difference means it's the middle of the afternoon here in HI. Couple of good vodka tonics afterwards tho' /images/graemlins/wink.gif


edit: I'll do better in that department next tiem - when it's back to HE, so it won't make any difference to the quality of my play anyway.