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MastiffPaul
06-01-2004, 10:55 PM
The play had been relatively tight for a low-stakes (10/1) PP tournament. Additionally, I had been playing tightly from the get-go. So I considered my UTG raise with TT risky, but not stupid. I think when the button re-raises, though, I lost it.

Party Poker Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind t200 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP (t145)
CO (t1895)
Button (t580)
SB (t1550)
BB (t2745)
Mastiff (t1085)

Preflop: Mastiff is UTG with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="CC3333">Mastiff raises</font>, MP folds, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Button 3-bets t580 (All-In)</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Mastiff calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.20 SB, t2040) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in) </font>
Mastiff checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">Mastiff raises</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (7.10 BB, t2840) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Mastiff bets t105 (All-In)</font>, CO calls.

River: (7.62 BB, t3050) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 2 all-in) </font>

Final Pot: 7.625 BB (t3050)
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 5.10 BB (t2040), between CO, Button and Mastiff.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Button (5.1 BB (t2040)).</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: 2.52 BB (t1010), between CO and Mastiff.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by CO (2.525 BB (t1010)).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Mastiff shows Tc Td (one pair, tens).
CO shows 4h Ah (one pair, aces).
Button shows Ad Ts (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Button wins 5.10 BB (t2040). CO wins 2.52 BB (t1010). </font>

Furthermore, is it generally incorrect to play aggressively against someone who is short-stacked? Many of my recent losses have been a result of players who went all-in against me (keep in mind, this is limit) after I raised preflop. My understanding is that one must go all-in with sub-par hands before one gets blinded--so doesn't it make sense to play good hands against these players? Aren't the odds against them improving their hands?

stripsqueez
06-01-2004, 11:42 PM
in the position you were in i think your play was automatic and correct up to the flop bet - perhaps you can check/fold to the cutoffs likely bet but betting out isnt the worse thing given that if you lose this pot your going to have to win the next one

i like going up against the short stacked guys - as you observe the short stacked guys have to play sub par cards because of the pressure of the blinds - that means that they are perfect targets

as it was you were a big pre-flop favourite to more than double your stack - 1010 is too good to contemplate doing less than raising

stripsqueez - chickenhawk

RobGW
06-02-2004, 01:46 AM
Your initial raise was fine. think about what hands the CO would call with and what hands the Button goes all in with?
Once the A comes on the flop, do you still think you are ahead?