Money Recieved from PP-most of it!

[MRVEGAS]

I did recieve most of my money. They did infact keep the $16.00 in comp points (no big deal). I still cant understand why this happened just glad to get the cash. Pacifc Poker wronged me and may have security issues with in their own house. Im really not in a position to make such an accusation but know what Ive said and I believe this stems from the tournament. I consider the matter closed as far as I am concerned.

As for the individuals (Grannymae in particular) The last few days i took the time to review some of the past post on other topics you people replied too. I begin to notice a pattern. Grannymae i was only kidding about you being miserable person and sitting in your garage with the car running but after i read post after post of such anger, abusive, rude and yes sometimes witty post a pattern begin develop and as anyone else that takes the time to go back and read I begin to build a profile of your character, your attitude, and overall personality and how you seem to view life. most disturbing was the question why? simply why would someone take up such time and so often post this way. what is this persons true agenda here? Frankly, what is this persons true mental state.

Granny mae im going to try and give you a opportunity to change all that. change how ppl really view you here. Save face. Your first reaction will be to post something probaly clever with of course a silly cartoon. But do this instead, dont post anything. In fact, dont come to the forum at all for a few days. I understand this will be tough. Dont worry about what ppl with think of you not coming back with a snappy comeback. Dont worry about what anyone thinks of you. Take this time to reflect on your own life, and what you true purpose is to come to an internet forum for poker and present you self this way. Really and truely give you life some thought. After a few days come back here and reply to a post in a constructive, friendly manner. Get the focus back on poker and getting better at the game im sure you enjoy. People will notice the change in you and that in turn might inspire someone else. Give this poker forum the respect it deserves. And most important you owe it to yourself. I wish you the best of luck.

Sincerely your friend,

MRV

[B Dids]

So what you're saying is that you were wrong, Granny was right- and you're going to give HER a chance to save face.

You've got jokes kid.

[Cubswin]

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why would someone take up such time and so often post this way.

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granny helps you out then you question how she acts. i will tell you why i think she acts the way she does.... the forum needs it. people come here day in and day out with the same ole problems and conspiracy theories or they coming bitching because they themselves fukked up (like you have). while most of us act nice and try to help out granny says what most of us are really thinking. i respect her for that. her extensive knowledge on a lot of topics coupled with her brutal honesty is a great asset to this forum.

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Granny mae im going to try and give you a opportunity to change all that. change how ppl really view you here. Save face.

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granny will never and should never change. i think it is you that needs to save face.

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Take this time to reflect on your own life

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Without knowing the exact specifics of granny's health issues, im going to ponder that she has done quite a bit of this... she doesnt need to told to do this by you

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Get the focus back on poker

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you just dont get it do ya... there is more to life then poker and many come to the zoo to discuss other issues with likeminded people who have an understanding of what other posters are going through. granny discussing other issues is a blessing in my opin. if you want to talk poker go to your micro limit forum. if you want to talk about bonus whoring, dutch boyd, american idol and pattern maps come to the zoo.

i will give yo credit for one thing.... you have shown us that you can put together a coherent sentence. props to you for that. now, my adivce to you would be to start over here....get a new handle and come back into the zoo with a new additude. you are not going to change things here and you are certainly not going to change granny. people enjoy her way too much and the zoo is just not the same without her.

regards
cubswin

[fluff]

Waah waah waah....you whine just like a little baby don't you? Can't believer you wrote 2 paragraphs crying about it.

Here is hint: If those words that some virtual stranger is typing annoys you, close the chat window, or in this case, the forum.

[RussellM]

Dear MrVegas,

I am Russell M from the Operations Department at Cassava Enterprises (Gibraltar) Ltd. I am writing concerning your Pacific Poker account. We are aware that you have expressed your opinions about our handling of your account on the Poker Forum pages, and we would like to reply to your concerns expressed on these.

Firstly it should be noted that we have not witheld any of your funds from you. You have cashed out considerably more than you have deposited with us, which includes our awarded bonuses. When your account was blocked by ourselves we paid all cashouts in process. There remains no funds in any of your accounts.

We have terminated your membership with us because of repeated complaints about your abusive behaviour on our chat facility. It should be remembered that we are primarily an entertainment company, we entertain our members who enjoy playing on our tables which includes allowing them to use our chat facility. This is our main concern, and ensures that we will always have players returning if they enjoy the experience we provide. Our chat facility should be viewed as a means of increasing our members' enjoyment. This is not to be used for any abusive language or intimidating chat.

It was repeatadly brought to our attention that you were misusing our chat facility. This meant that you had upset several of our members enough that they lodged complaints with ourselves. We initially blocked your account in December for just such concerns. We were assured by yourself that this was an isolated incident and would not reoccur. On these reassurances, we reopened your account, with the stipulation that if such complaints occured again, this would be closed for good.

We did receive further complaints over the coming months. I myself asked that you refrain from using the chat facility full stop, in order that no other members could be offended by your contact. We received further complaints after this date, and so have permanently blocked your account. We do not want your membership with our site as your conduct at Pacific Poker has not changed, despite repeatad warnings from ourselves.

It should also be mentioned that you have abused our Member Support Team since this account blockage.

As mentioned above we have not witheld any of your funds, you have profited from your time at Pacific Poker, but now regretfully, due to your constant uncouth behaviour towards other fellow members, we will not allow you back at our Poker tables.

Kind Regards,
Russell M
Operations Department,
Cassava Enterprises (Gibraltar) Ltd
operations@cassava.net

[Lazymeatball]

Pacific Poker higher ups read this forum? that's cool. How do they feel about all the collusion accusations?

[SinCityGuy]

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Pacific Poker higher ups read this forum? that's cool. How do they feel about all the collusion accusations?

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I think their energy would be much better served by stopping the collusion on their site instead of putting a chat abuser through the ringer for being a poor sport.

[GrannyMae]

Granny mae im going to try and give you a opportunity to change all that. change how ppl really view you here

Really and truely give you life some thought. After a few days come back here and reply to a post in a constructive, friendly manner.

Give this poker forum the respect it deserves.


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YOU STUPID FOOL
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YOU STUPID NON READING BIG MOUTH [censored]ING CUNT. I HAVENT GOT ANY MONEY I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE A FUCK UP THAT LIVES ON THE PC YOU FUCKIN MISERABLE HUMAN BEING AGAIN FUCK YOU I DONT HAVE MY MONEY FUCK YOU YOU MUST SO FUCKIN LOSER THAT CANT WIN YOU FUCKIN JOKE FUCK YOU I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY OR WHAT YOU BELIEVE FUCK YOU

i hope its your last
From: MRVEGAS

I hope its your last birthday you miserable, stupid, ALL MOUTH fuckin cunt or whatever. Fuck you, you worthless fuckin bitch fuck you. im sure you some fat ugly disgusting human being who cant get any attention in the real world so you hide behind you fuckin monitor and spew that garbage, fuck you again you miserable fuckin CUNT. </font>


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[MicroBob]

very cool for pacific to address this situation in these forums.

i still don't understand why his chat wasn't simply blocked as is typically done on most sites in similar situations.

but, it is up to pacific to choose whom they deem as worthwhile customers and i have no problem with banning players for repeated chat abuse if that is their wont.

obviously, withholding his funds would have been inappropriate in this matter but it seems MrV didn't understand that he was indeed getting his money back.

i couldn't figure out whether he was going to get his money back either based on the e-mails he posted here from pacific...so perhaps pacific will make it more clear in future similar situations that the player is being refunded his entire account balance.


russell - you may not be aware of this. there have been a couple of other threads on here regarding your company's handling of player-collusion. several 2+2'ers are concerned that pacific does not take the appropriate action nor take it seriously enough.

also, there is another poster on here who says he has yet to receive funds from pacific. i will let him speak for himself...but perhaps you would care to address these issues as well.

i have not played on pacific in a few months, but could potentially be interested in returning IF i felt more secure about the other situations there.
however, your reply here to MrV is a huge step towards potentially receiving my business again and i think further discussion on the other matters may help persuade me and some of the other 2+2'ers as well.

[Freudian]

Gotta love the [censored] part /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Nick B.]

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Firstly it should be noted that we have not witheld any of your funds from you. You have cashed out considerably more than you have deposited with us, which includes our awarded bonuses. When your account was blocked by ourselves we paid all cashouts in process. There remains no funds in any of your accounts.


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Does anybody else not like that part of the statement. I don't really know how much was in his account or how much they paid, but by saying that he has cashed out way more than he deposited everything is ok?

[Bob L]

I once heard someone say -"you are what you eat" -is this true?

[gabyyyyy]

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get a new handle and come back into the zoo with a new additude

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Do you think you're the two plus manners police? /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[gabyyyyy]

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very cool for pacific to address this situation in these forums

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Yea, it is cool. However it would be wayyyy cooler if their site was actually worth playing, and had decent software.

[gabyyyyy]

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Does anybody else not like that part of the statement. I don't really know how much was in his account or how much they paid, but by saying that he has cashed out way more than he deposited everything is ok?

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Yes, I find it a bit odd also. It is almost like they think pacific poker is a casino and not a poker room. Who knows maybe they rig the cards and it is really the same as a slot machine. The truth can come out at weird times.

[MRVEGAS]

Russell as i stated in another post why dont you come here and explain the person i caught in the tourny with 21 user accounts? How many complaints did i recieve after i reported this person? It was confirmed to me by support about this persons number of accounts. Myself and the thousands of others that read here daily will be waiting to here from you. My theory-i busted a ring on the inside that was makin money afterwards they looked up my account saw the chat issues from 5 months ago and they notified the ring and they started a complaint campaign. Here we are!

Looking Foward to hearin from you,

MRV

[TimM]

I think they were just trying to say that he had a good thing going and killed it by not keeping his virtual mouth shut.

[MicroBob]

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Firstly it should be noted that we have not witheld any of your funds from you. You have cashed out considerably more than you have deposited with us, which includes our awarded bonuses. When your account was blocked by ourselves we paid all cashouts in process. There remains no funds in any of your accounts.

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looking at the whole paragraph it just appears that he is alluding to the fact that he has no reason to complain regarding cash-out issues because he has never had any.

although i do agree that the wording of the sentence alone is a bit eye-brow raising...but i'm not too bothered by it.

[MRVEGAS]

FYI- I sent PP 2+2 post to let them know what i was doing. I just cant get any solid answers the general "chat abuse" is all.

The reason for the post to start with is that PP has always been prompt with cashouts. 2-3 days has been the norm. When i got the email closing my account i waited the amount of time i was used to. When it didnt hit i got worried. I wanted to get some attention on the matter fast. It seems to have worked! 1959 views 147 responses in a few days. Fact is, until now they have been great. Fast cashouts, fast and friendly service, and dispite the bad reputation about software and lack of features the site has done nothing but try and steadily improve all the time. In the year+ ive been playing there huge advances have been made. I have a feeling its only a matter of time before PP rises to the top of on-line poker. The game history feature is second to none. Immediately, you can go back and review hands played visually,exactly as it happened. Thats why the matter is so important to me. I didnt do anything wrong. I messed up and let my temper get the best of me 5 months ago and got into trouble i admitted it, was warned, and backed off. I ran across the wrong person. You know the story. MRVEGAS is/was nothing more than a character. The obnoxious Ahole found on any card table anywhere in the world. Usually loud and probaly drunk.(i dont drink) The person nobody likes and everyone wants to beat. Many people understood and got it and thought it was amusing.Ive made some friends on PP and rivals. I miss them both. All of the "flaming" here is MRV. GEEZ, look at that pic. How could anyone take it so seriously. /images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyway, i truely mean no ill will toward anybody. I wish everyone here at this Forum the absolute best. Every single day i logg on check the news someone is dying, dead or gonna be. When i play cards and yes keeping the banter up all that mess leaves my mind for a short while and im sure my opponents as well. Maybe i took MRV too far at PP. I really dont think so. My favorite rival would just laugh at me and call me NERVEGAS i always liked that one.

PEACE!

[Cubswin]

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Do you think you're the two plus manners police?

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No i dont think im the 2+2 manner police... he is free to act however he wants to. That being said, i do not think anyone will ever take him seriously as he wont outgrow his image of being a whinner... sort of like you have never outgrown your image of being a cheap broken-down card player always looking for a free handout. He can, of course, feel free to continue posting under his name just as you have continued to post after your whinning.... he should just expect to held in the same high regards that you are.

cubswin

[gabyyyyy]

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He can, of course, feel free to continue posting under his name just as you have continued to post after your whinning.... he should just expect to held in the same high regards that you are.


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I am actually quite happy with how poorly I am regarded here. If I were accepted into your little members only, moronic 2+2 know it all group, I would really feel like a loser.

[sumdumguy]

We might have to consider that this part of the reply may directly address the OP's earlier alluding that Pacific was withholding funds because the OP made too much money. The reply kinda, almost, sorta tries to say that they willingly, and maybe even happily cashed out his winnings.

No! I am not currently a Pacific affiliate ! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Stew]

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He can, of course, feel free to continue posting under his name just as you have continued to post after your whinning.... he should just expect to held in the same high regards that you are.


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I am actually quite happy with how poorly I am regarded here. If I were accepted into your little members only, moronic 2+2 know it all group, I would really feel like a loser.

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Sounds logical enough to me. In other words, "I have no life and I'll hang out with a bunch of people who for the most part, really don't like me, and continue to point out the flaws and errors in my posts. Then, if for some reason they did come to like me, I'd feel like a loser."