Casino Whoring Question

[Poker Jet]

I deposited $50 and got $200 ($250 bankroll)... 15x playthrough...

I only found out about a small catch in this after I started.... only 20% of the playthrough could be done via BJ. (meaning $750 of the $3,750 playthrough)

I did that, and am now at $380.00

Here's my question, considering there is $3k in playthough left, where should I do it to maximize money out of this?

Here are prohibited games for this

Jacks or Better Poker (reg, power, and 10 play power), Bacarrat, Craps, Roulette, Sic Bo...

Should I go to like Pai Gow (due to # of standoffs), or a non Jacks vp?

[Cubswin]

which casino is this? we need to know which games they offer

[BradleyT]

Variance at $.25 VP is huge. You could easily blow through your $300 without hitting a royal or enough quads to get anything out. Although you could score a royal and win $1000 and then find out they have a max cashout of $400 on the bonus.

Craps has the lowest house edge of the games you listed but I've found that online craps REALLY sucks. In hundreds of $$$ of $1/$2 bets I never had more than 3 points in a row at multiple casinos.

Roulette has over 5% house edge so that's out of the question.

Maybe baccarat?

[lefty rosen]

European Roulette has a 2.8% percent house edge. Using a Martingale system and getting lucky could get you to clear the bonus(I did this with a free 15 on a site). Many sites don't allow Roulette because of this reason. I had to mule my bonus at VP and got hammered(lost about 80 US on 255 spins). If that won't convince you VP is for the birds I don't know what will............. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Poker Jet]

The games LISTED ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE USED...

Its Platinum Play (Microgaming)

[Cubswin]

UGH...you erased your last post while i was in the process of replying so my really long reply was erased /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif ....now you get a shorter answer and have to do your homework instead of having me do it for you. Three card poker has a pretty low house edge depending on their rules. Normally its around 3.5% but might be higher or lower depending on the paytable (they will tweak the pays for 3 of a kind and str8 flush). Go to wizardofodds.com for more info and odds on all games.

regards
cubswin

[Homer]

Go with Paigow Poker. The house edge is 2.73% and most importantly, you can set it to Autoplay, assuming this casino is using the new Viper software.

-- Homer

[BradleyT]

The actual reason roulette isn't allowed at many places is you could simply bet $5 red and $5 black and only lose when green came up.

On single zero roulette you could wager $3600 and expect to lose $100. This would be an extremely fail-proof way to clear a bonus unless green came up an abnormal amount of times in 360 spins.

[Audi]

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Should I go to like Pai Gow (due to # of standoffs), or a non Jacks vp?


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In your shoes I'd go for something like Deuces wild VP. house advantage (HA) < 0.5%. If variance scares you (it shouldn't) then be warned: it's pretty large, but max betting at 25c level should see you through. (Multi-hand would clear the requirements much faster). Correct basic strategy is a little more complex than JoB, but available at the wizard of odds website. (Does platinum use viper software? If so let their robot take over).

Another option is Cyberstud Poker - very easy to learn correct basic strategy, but the HA is still over 2% according to the Wiz I believe.

Personally, I don't touch games with > 1% HA.

Good luck.

[BradleyT]

On most viper VP the bot plays differently than what BDPWP says to do.

I trust BDPWP more than the viper software here....

[Adde]

I would not go for any video poker at all, deuces wild, etc. Despite their terms saying only JB is not permitted, I am pretty sure they mean all VP. People at other forums have emailed and asked the casino and got that answer. Also, the T&C wording often can be interpretated in many ways, thus excluding more games than you thought at first.

You should take the game advices in this thread and then ask the casino if this or that game is allowed to clear the bonus.

Adde

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The actual reason roulette isn't allowed at many places is you could simply bet $5 red and $5 black and only lose when green came up.

On single zero roulette you could wager $3600 and expect to lose $100. This would be an extremely fail-proof way to clear a bonus unless green came up an abnormal amount of times in 360 spins.

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safer to add an insurance 1/36th bet on green too.

[TomCollins]

Why not bet black 800 times? It's got the same edge and 800 times should round out enough.

[GrannyMae]

Despite their terms saying only JB is not permitted, I am pretty sure they mean all VP.

here is a first, but i disagree adde. many sites have JoB listed as not allowed, but they do indeed allow all of the others. this is obviously because JoB is the lowest advantage. i use A&F all the time to clear wr's where JoB is not allowed.

here is a solution to the variance problem.. there are several micro sites that have recently made ALL viper games available down to a penny minimum. A&F or a fuller pay deuces, played at 1cent coinage on the 4-play will yield less variance.

adde, do you have a list of the vipers that have the new penny minimum on all games? this penny minimum equates to a 20cent total bet on a 4-play VP.

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[Adde]

When Fortune Lounge started with their 20% BJ thing, their terms said no JoB VP. I, and others, assumed other VPs would be ok, but got a negative answer from them. They may have changed that since then, and also, various support staff often can come up with various answers. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Nope Granny, I don't have such a list.

Adde

[DogRockets]

Poker Jet,

I have an account there also. I asked them about the video poker for bonus clearing and you can play the others, just not any Jacks or Better. Aces and Faces are good for this.

I've been playing the 3 Card Poker, .50 ante, $1 Pairplus, and playing with any hand of Q/6/4 or higher. Working out well so far.

You can check the house edge on the Microgaming games at Wizard of Odds (http://www.wizradofodds.com) and they have strategy listed for most games there too.

It's a good bonus, and if you sign up and deposit sterling, you get 200 sterling for 50 sterling deposit.

Good luck!

[Mike Haven]

you have highlighted one of the everlasting fallacies about roulette

if you bet 370 times and every number comes up ten times (as would be the case in the long run):

if you bet $5 on red and $5 on black you will win 360 x $0 and lose 10 x $10 :- total loss = $100

if you bet $10 on red you will win 180 x $10 and lose 190 x $10 :- total loss = $100

it doesn't matter what you do, every spin of the wheel loses you £100/370 = 27c

you say "unless green came up an abnormal amount of times in 360 spins"

you might as well say you will win money on the "if you bet $10 on red" bet if red came up an abnormal number of times, or, you will lose money if black came up an abnormal number of times

there is no way lessen roulette's 27c per spin loss,
whatever you do, unless your luck happens to be in, and the green doesn't come up more than ten times, or the red does come up more than 180 times

the conclusion is if you can't whore bonuses while playing roulette, don't play roulette

[GrannyMae]

Fortune Lounge

that explains ALOT

fortune lounge rooms = thieves. i know i don't have to tell YOU that.

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[shandrakor]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Mike, but laying 1/2 bets each on Black and Red vs betting straight along Red would have significantly less volitility, wouldn't it?

[GrannyMae]

Correct me if I'm wrong, Mike, but laying 1/2 bets each on Black and Red vs betting straight along Red would have significantly less volitility, wouldn't it?

i know i'm not mike, but thought i would chime in.

you are correct, which is why no rooms at all allow roulette, craps or sicbo.

also, the theory of betting all one color, while proven to be a bad play by mike anyway, would also not be allowed. in other words, they don't allow certain bets in roulette and not allow others. any bet placed on the roulette table will void your bonus. they don't differentiate between advantage bets and sucker bets. it is a prohibited game for bonus players.

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[TomCollins]

Just bet $1 on each number. You clear the bonus a lot faster, and you will lose $1 every spin. No volitility.