Golden Nugget 20/40 QQ hand

[SinCityGuy]

Thursday afternoon, I was in a 20/40 game at the Golden Nugget. A couple of bad players have busted out, and we're currently 8-handed. The game is not very good at this point.

A solid player open raises UTG. Folded to me in the CO, and I make it three bets with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. Everyone else folds and he calls.

Flop: J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 5/images/graemlins/club.gif

He checks, I bet, he calls.

Turn: K/images/graemlins/club.gif

He checks.

Your move. Check behind or bet?

[rigoletto]

You check and call his river bet because you'd have to call a checkraise.

[risen]

He can't see your hand, represent AK, fire one out on the turn and see what happens. You'll take it down right there, alot. Don't let him see the river for free.

[rigoletto]

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He can't see your hand, represent AK, fire one out on the turn and see what happens. You'll take it down right there, alot. Don't let him see the river for free.

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Yes you will. But how often will you fold a better hand!

[risen]

You're not going to fold Kx or AA, but a 2pr hand should feel too vulnerable to chance a whiffed checkraise, and you should be able to squeeze a bet out of someone holding the J or T, and get those lone aces out of there. Winning the hand on the turn isn't such a crime here.

[j.k.]

Check behind. The King may very well be a scare card for him too. If he has AJ,A10, 99 etc he may fold the turn and you miss a bet from him. If he has AK, AQ, KQ, JJ etc you save yourself two bets if you call him down. I think the hands you are ahead of are drawing slim enough that a free card won't be disastrous.

j.k.

[risen]

Oops, just realized you picked up an OESD, Aces rule, check that bad boy. If he hits you'll get pizzaid.

[j.k.]

"...and get those lone aces out of there."

I don't want those lone aces out of there with QQ on a
K J 10 board, let alone ones that already have a pair on board with their kicker (except AK of course /images/graemlins/wink.gif)

"...you should be able to squeeze a bet out of someone holding the J or T"

Sin described him as a solid player and I don't think a solid player will call the turn with a lone J or 10 against a preflop 3 bet from another solid player after the K falls. Unless Sin is very tricky and this other guy knows it, I think he's folding most hands that are beat, but calling or checkraising hands that aren't.

[SinCityGuy]

I checked behind on the turn. There is little danger in giving a free card here. The only overcard is an ace, which gives me the nut straight. If he's ahead, I've got eight outs and I avoid being checkraised by a better hand.

The river was the 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif

He checked, I bet, he called. He mucked and my hand was good.

[mikelow]

Check behind and hope you make your hand. Note that a queen isn't a clean out.