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Iceyburnz
05-18-2004, 01:36 PM
If you ever go to the Borgata in Atlantic City and decide that you want to try a hot chocolate from the scantily-clad waitress; Never try the hot chocolate out to see how hot it really is. It is really hot. Really Really hot. You will not have use of your tongue for the next 4 days if you are lucky........
-me


Me and the GF left Northern Jersey on Saturday morning for a drive down to Southern jersey. Down to the land where dreams can come true.
Atlantic City!

This was my first visit to the newest opened casino in A.C. and the place looked very nice. Of course, I only saw slot machines on my way to the poker room but who cares about slots or blackjack anyways? Poker is where it's at.

I get to the Borgata around 7-ish and i am told that there is about a 2 hour wait for a seat for 2-4. I get on the list and check out the atmosphere.

The room was packed! The tables looked very nice and the chairs did as well. There is a small little deli near the desk for sign-ups where you can grab a bite (I didn't look at the prices but the GF said it was kind of pricey) and TV's all over the place.

Well enough about the atmosphere. My three loyal readers (that's about how many comments I get.....) could care less about how a place looks.

About a half hour of watching the basketball game, I find that I am still about 30 deep on the list. I walk around the room and check out some of the games and stack sizes. I come back to sit with my GF and notice that the list for 2-4 is gone. I couldn't hear the announcements that they made but I'm guessing they purge the list every couple of hours tomake sure people are still there (that's what I would do). So I become first on the list and get $100 worth of chips while I wait for my name to be called.

They call my name and I'm off to find my seat. The floorperson asks me if I want to sit in a 3-6 game (I probably should have) and I tell him I will wait for a 2-4. He says a seat should open in about 2 mins or less and that is exactly how long I have to wait.

I get seated in the 2 seat (I'll try to remember everyone as best as I can.)


1 seat = grandmom, got replaced by a real young guy
2 seat = Yours truly
3 seat = young bad player YBP got replaced by Jewish guy JG
4 seat = Guy from 6-12;friends with 1 seat; Mike
5 seat = husband?
6 seat = wife?
7 seat = Older guy with sunglasses OGG
8 seat = Young Chinese guy got Old guy with sunglasses OGG2
9 seat = young bad player with pink shirt YBPP
10 seat =older guy with sunglasses2 OGG3


These are the people that I basically played with for the 5 hours I was at the table. Me and the 1 seat instantly started chatting and he even told/showed me some of his hole cards. The two in 5 & 6 could have been married, I dont know. It was the running joke of the table. They kept leaving together for like a half hour at a time. the 7 and 10 seat both knew each other and they both weren't good at all. The 10 seat took forever to look at his cards and then took forever to make his decision. He would then stare at ppl to try and get a read and he was usually wrong. LOL. The 9 seat sat there all night with this toothpick and put it from his ear, to his mouth to his fingers. Mike wanted to take his toothpick and stick it in his eye. LOL. He was friends with the 3 seat.

It became clear that the 7-10 seat didnt like our side of the table and wemade it a point to take as many of their chips as we could.

When I got to the table, the young chinese guy in the 8 seat and an amazing stack of chips. I'mnot sure how much he bought in for but he had at least 250 in front of him. He was loose. One hand I could remember was when I raised PF with pocket 10's. He may have had one bet on the table already. He calls and the flop comes down 9-x-9. I bet to test my hand and he raises. I go into check call mode and he shows down A-9. I just say good hand, knowning that I'll get those chips sooner or later.

Were the 5 and 6 seat married? Who knows. Neither one could really play cards.LOL

I was in LP and raised with AJo. Flop comes down J high and she bets. I raise and she 3 bets. At this point I only had about 24 bucks in front of me. I cap it and the turn is a blank. She bets and I again raise it. She calls. River comes a blank. She bets again and I go all in forcing her all in. Her magical holdings? JQo. I take down the pot and end up with about 50 bucks.

My GF is sitting behind me and she knows that sometimes I play a little too loose and I throw away chips so she assigns herself the job of grabbing a couple of my $5 chips so that I can at least walk away with something. I shrug.

Me and the guy in the 10 seat start talking about stuff. Well, he was basically talking to someone else and I invited myself into the conversation. He was from Cherry Hill, NJ which was close to where I grew up. He was playing ok. I was involved with one hand that hurt though,

I was holding something like KTo. Something like that. Flop comes down K high with 2 clubs. I bet and am called. Turn is a blank so I bet again and am called. River gives us 3 clubs on the board. I completely miss that when it is checked to me and bet like the big gorilla that I am. Surprise, Surprise when it was check raised back to me. I said, "check raise me when you caught your flush huh?" and make the crying call to see A2s to take down the pot. Another hand I remember was when I held KTs in MP. flop comes down AKx and I bet. No one raises. Turn is an A. Young guy in the 10 seat bets before me and I fold, thinking he may have been slowplaying the A. Everyone folds to him and he takes down the pot. He told me after the hand that he had a K. My GF, who was sitting behind me and looking at my whole cards said she wouldn't have laid it down.

Sidenote- I had originally planned to sit and watch my GF play. She is always telling me how she would not lose her money and knows when to leave a table and all that jazz. So we get to the Borgata and while we are waiting for a table, I get my players card. She says she wants to get one too. So she starts searching for her license in her purse. Not finding it there, i goto check the car. She can't find it at all. She goes into worry mode and I just tell her to relax and think back and she will remember where it is. In any case, she was afraid she was going to get carded at the table (she doesnt look young to me) so she didnt want to play. We found her license at her house. I so wanted to see her play

So I stole a couple of more pots by just betting with top pair and being relentless with it. and she keep hording my red chips in her purse. Pretty soon I had my buy-in back in her purse and I was playing with all profit.

People always talk about online poker being rigged. Well I saw four hands were the person got quads on the river. Online is rigged? Real life is rigged. And I was unfortunate enough to get one of those quads.

I held 9x in the big blind. X was anywhere from 4 to 7 but not a 6. No raises and I check. Flop comes down 9-9-6. Yes! I got trips. I bet and get called by the 10 seat, who took forever trying to stare me down. I just laughed and smiled at him and stared back. LOL. I can be so childish at times. Maybe 2 more people called so we all saw the turn of a blank. I bet again with my trips and the 10 seat raises. I thought he could have had a 9 with a better kicker so I called. The turn was the lovely 9 giving me quads. he sighed when he saw that card because he knew he was beat. I bet and he called showing me his pocket 6's for the flopped baby house. That's what you get for trying to slowplay me! Heh. The guy in the 1 seat was fortunate enough to get quads twice and both times it was in his small blind. and both times he caught trips on the flop and rivered his quads. And the 10 seat kept saying, "everytime I make a house, someone gets quads." They had seen an amazing 6 quads already and a royal flush.

My GF really wanted to go home so I said, Next time I get a hand, I'll just go all in. That didn't happen. Everytime I went allin, my miracle card hit and I accumulated more chips. Sometime during the night, a young jewish guy sits next to me. Very friendly guy and you know what they say.....(If you don't, 'generally, the nicer the guy the worse he played cards') Example you ask?

I raise PF with rockets and I'm called by him as well as pink shirt with the toothpick in the 9 seat. Flop comes out T-j-Q. Pink shirt bets and I raise. Jewish guy and pink shirt both call and I'm like crap. I knew I was beat until the turn brought a lovely King. Pink shirt bets again and I raise. Jewish guy 3 bets and pink shirt calls. I put the cap there since I have the nuts (there was no flush out there) and someone could have two pair so i have to make them pay. River was a blank and I bet. Jewish guy raises me and I figure he must have an ace so why should I pay more rake right? Wrong. I should have kept raising as long as he would raise back. His magical holdings? 89s for the flopped straight that he tried to slowplay. I probably still would have called with my aces but that is what he gets. That took a nice chunk out of his stack. I wonder if I would have raised him back would have kept going at it with me with the 2nd best hand.

After 5-6 hours of play, I was up $99 and decided that I would play until my blinds. Nothing else happened and I bid farewell to my side of the table giving out handshakes and good lucks and gave the other side of the table some nods. Went to the cashier and got my $199.


Came back to the Borgata on Sunday morning and decided to try my hand again at 2-4. I was 5th on the list when they decided to open a new table. Here is my list of my new table mates.


1: Guy in his mid twenties
2: His GF
3: some older guy
4: Me!!!
5: another older guy
6: cant remember
7: husband
8: cant remember
9: cant remember
10: wife


I only bought in for 60 at this table, figuring if I lost it, then maybe I would need a change of scenery. Didnt play any hands outside of my blinds for the first orbit and when the blinds came back around I found myself holding Qxo. Couple of callers and I check. Flop comes down QQ7 and I suddenly wake up and start betting. Couple of callers. Turn is a T. No flush. I bet again and I am only called by the 1 seat. River is a 9. I bet again and he calls. His magical cards? KJs. Yes he caught running cards to catch his straight. I was upset, but gave him the standard NH. Every other time, he Won't catch those running cards to give him a straight and I knew. I dont even know why he called the flop bet. The other card was nowhere near the nine so he should have folded right there. And then he doesn't raise me when he makes his hand. I knew I could get those chips.

Another hand I remember was when I raised PF with 9's. The 7 seat called along with two others, i believe. Flop comes down A-A-x. I bet to test my hand and he raises. Someone calls him to the river and he shows down A4o. Just keep calling raises with those weak aces and I will have all of your chips, you terrible, terrible man. That hand along with the queens and the blinds had me down a lot. I think I was down to my last 25 or so. I get A9s on the button and I raise and the 5 seat and the blinds just calls. Flop comes down J-9-x. 5 seat bets and I think for a minute or two and decide to call. I figure a 9 or an Ace and I'm golden. Turn was a beautiful 9 and the 5 seat must have sensed that I had one because he checked it. I bet and he calls. River is a king. He bets and I go into the tank. Q-T? K9? At this point, I only have 6 left so I decide to just go all in. I raise and he reraises. The 10 seat says "he must have pocket K's. And she was right. He called all the way and hit his two outer. I give him a NH and get up to go.


Me and the GF go to the boardwalk to take a walk but it is extrememly hot outside. We decide to grab a bite and get a cheesesteak from some place on the boardwalk. It was kind of pricey but it tasted OK. I really wanted a cheesesteak from this place named Gaetano's in Pennsauken NJ. That cheesesteak is too die for. Alas, it would have taken us out of our way to get it. As Al, a philly guy, can tell you, nothing beats a good cheesesteak.

Played when I got home and got my first straight flush!!

Sorry about the vague details on hands. All of this was from memory


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Easy E
05-18-2004, 03:11 PM
My GF is sitting behind me and she knows that sometimes I play a little too loose and I throw away chips so she assigns herself the job of grabbing a couple of my $5 chips so that I can at least walk away with something. I shrug.

Sure, why not? You'd let someone else rathole, right?

And I was unfortunate enough to get one of those quads.

I must not understand your humor- you won that hand, didn't you?

Oh yeah- the repeated <font color="blue"> "knowning that I'll get those chips sooner or later" </font> comments. You sure are arrogant for someone who throws away extra money at $2/4- makes it a bit harder for you to "get the money" if you keep shoveling it down holes.
Maybe that attitude explains My three loyal readers (that's about how many comments I get.....)

Not a bad trip report, especially from memory alone, but you should become less impressed with yourself.

Iceyburnz
05-18-2004, 03:20 PM
I actually didn't know that 'ratholing' was against the rules. I have since told my girlfriend such and the practice has been stopped.


Menat the word fortuante there

I dont consider myself arrogant. pissed off is more like it. LOL

jayadd
05-18-2004, 03:31 PM
nice report....(need to start off positive)
i had the same feeling as easy i think you need to understand that its 2-4 your playing so when you mention bad players where else do you expect them to be.

You probably have read some trip reports on here and see someone mention "a table of fish" so you assumed that you needed to mention it.

Dont take the 2-4 so serious just play and have fun and try to learn. I would suggest playing your GF heads up i bet you she would beat you the majority of the time and im not saying this to put you down just that she probably knows how you play.

last comment WHY did you think you should play 3-6 instead of 2-4 is it cause you had success and pulled a profit from 2-4? remember that because you have won at one level by moving up doesn't mean you would win there.

Easy E
05-19-2004, 09:42 AM
after my post- my apologies, guess I'm getting cranky in my old age.

Here is a more detailed reply to explain the "dumping down a hole" comment

was holding something like KTo. Something like that. Flop comes down K high with 2 clubs. I bet and am called. Turn is a blank so I bet again and am called. River gives us 3 clubs on the board. I completely miss that when it is checked to me and bet like the big gorilla that I am. Surprise, Surprise when it was check raised back to me. I said, "check raise me when you caught your flush huh?" and make the crying call to see A2s to take down the pot.

You wasted a bet here at low limit- you almost never see someone make a move here.

when I held KTs in MP. flop comes down AKx and I bet. No one raises. Turn is an A. Young guy in the 10 seat bets before me and I fold, thinking he may have been slowplaying the A. Everyone folds to him and he takes down the pot. He told me after the hand that he had a K.

Did you believe him?

a young jewish guy sits next to me.

what does his religion have to do with anything? Don't clutter your report with irrelevancies.

I knew I was beat until the turn brought a lovely King. Pink shirt bets again and I raise. Jewish guy 3 bets and pink shirt calls. I put the cap there since I have the nuts (there was no flush out there) and someone could have two pair so i have to make them pay. River was a blank and I bet. Jewish guy raises me and I figure he must have an ace so why should I pay more rake right? Wrong. I should have kept raising as long as he would raise back.

Why worry about a measly dollar in rake? Unless you are sure you are chopping, raise this until the cows come home.
Couple of callers and I check. Flop comes down QQ7 and I suddenly wake up and start betting. Couple of callers. Turn is a T. No flush. I bet again and I am only called by the 1 seat. River is a 9. I bet again and he calls. His magical cards? KJs. Yes he caught running cards to catch his straight.

This shouldn't be a huge surprise- you only get called here for the most part by people who beat you. You shouldn't be overly surprised to see J8 or 86 here either- this is $2/4.
You expect someone catching a straight to raise you with that board? Not very likely.

Another hand I remember was when I raised PF with 9's. The 7 seat called along with two others, i believe. Flop comes down A-A-x. I bet to test my hand and he raises. Someone calls him to the river and he shows down A4o.

THIS is why they play Acrap- besides, he had a straight draw preflop.

Just keep calling raises with those weak aces and I will have all of your chips

Weak Aces are the scourge of low-limit, I'm convinced. However, you can usually throw away Kings when an Ace flops, and you make a lot of money when you have a strong Ace. Adjust accordingly

I get A9s on the button and I raise and the 5 seat and the blinds just calls. Flop comes down J-9-x. 5 seat bets and I think for a minute or two and decide to call. I figure a 9 or an Ace and I'm golden. Turn was a beautiful 9 and the 5 seat must have sensed that I had one because he checked it. I bet and he calls. River is a king. He bets and I go into the tank. Q-T? K9? At this point, I only have 6 left so I decide to just go all in.

Bad decision, more wasted chips. At least 1/2 BB, maybe the whole 1 1/2 BB. J9 was a likely slowplay hand here as well

Give up more of those marginal hands earlier, when you can wait until you dominate to pound your chips, and your results will be better. Capish?

Easy E
05-19-2004, 09:44 AM
Dont take the 2-4 so serious just play and have fun and try to learn.
I disagree with the first part- take it seriously and you will learn more and do better. DON'T take seriously the notion that you can make a living at this limit, given the rake ratio.

remember that because you have won at one level by moving up doesn't mean you would win there.
I haven't seen $3/6 and $2/4 being that much different, myself.

Schmed
05-19-2004, 10:05 AM
2-4, 3-6, 6-12...live the difference is the amount of money the players have in front of them. Actually not true, 3-6 and 2-4 are exactly the same. At 6-12 there may be 3 out of 10 at the table who are "players".

Easy E
05-19-2004, 10:18 AM
n/m

risen
05-19-2004, 12:43 PM
Yea that hot chocolate is hot, but the tongue burn is a good way to wake up at 3:30 AM when you should be in your bed but are instead bleeding chips in a horrible short handed HE/O8 10/20 Kill game you're only in because the floor stopped asking for rake and the crazy bastards around you don't know how to play O8.

scrub
05-19-2004, 04:32 PM
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At 6-12 there may be 3 out of 10 at the table who are "players".

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By which I'm assuming you mean that they own sunglasses and can just about figure out what the nuts are for a given board...

scrub

AJo Go All In
05-19-2004, 07:04 PM
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get A9s on the button and I raise and the 5 seat and the blinds just calls. Flop comes down J-9-x. 5 seat bets and I think for a minute or two and decide to call. I figure a 9 or an Ace and I'm golden. Turn was a beautiful 9 and the 5 seat must have sensed that I had one because he checked it. I bet and he calls. River is a king. He bets and I go into the tank. Q-T? K9? At this point, I only have 6 left so I decide to just go all in.

Bad decision, more wasted chips. At least 1/2 BB, maybe the whole 1 1/2 BB. J9 was a likely slowplay hand here as well

Give up more of those marginal hands earlier, when you can wait until you dominate to pound your chips, and your results will be better. Capish?




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what? this is a very easy raise.