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csuf_gambler
05-16-2004, 09:19 AM
i just noticed the banner on this forum.

anyone got the low down on this site? 20% up to $120.

this a skin?

Zwiggelte
05-16-2004, 11:05 AM
not a good reputation..nutzz poker was broke within a month a couple of years ago..so i would never use this name as a new pokerroom

Stew
05-16-2004, 11:47 AM
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not a good reputation..nutzz poker was broke within a month a couple of years ago..so i would never use this name as a new pokerroom

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Is this the same guy that ran GutsPoker?

TheNutz
05-16-2004, 11:48 AM
This has nothing to do with ANY former owners of ANY poker site, I am the head of marketing for this site and personally know the owners who have the financial backing to make this site a huge success. The domain you maybe confused with could be GutsPoker which is part of 24HPoker and as far as I know, is still operating.

If you download the software you will see that it is brand new software with alot of great features of the current on-line poker websites, I truly feel it is top of the line on it's first release. You can just imagine with the dedication the programming team has how this software will evolve in the coming years.

The action is small right now as we just did out soft launch for real money, but the play is increasing every day and will continue to do so.

If you are a micro limit player or would like to get your start in some smaller tournaments with weaker competition and gradually build up your tournament play success you should really give it a try.

For a limited time, we are offering a 20% deposit bonus up to $120 and you can deposit for as little as $50.00 to give it a try.

As far as whether it is a skin or not, NutzPoker is part of YourPokerNetwork. There are currently four other partner sites with four more coming the next month or two., one of the sites considering joining the network was a pioneer in the on-line poker market. You will find out more about that in the coming months I am sure.

Right now if you play at NutzPoker, you will likely to run into Oklahoma Johnny himself and Juha Helppi. The both plays every once in a while at the site. I do not think two professional players such as the ones noted above would want to be affiliated with a bad network.

If you have any firther questions please don't hesitate replying here, PM'ing me, or e-mailing me at marketing@nutzpoker.com

Regards,
Ryan Lanane
Marketing Director
NutzPoker.com

TheNutz
05-16-2004, 11:56 AM
BTW, after checking with the head of the network, we are not in any way affiliated with gutspoker (which is apparently still out there) and there never was a poker site operated on http://www.nutzpoker.com - Maybe the site you are thinking of used a different variation of the spelling?

Regards,
Ryan Lanane
Marketing Director
NutzPoker.com

Edited : For spelling errors

Baulucky
05-16-2004, 12:03 PM
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As far as whether it is a skin or not, yes it is.. There are currently four skins with four more coming the next month or two., one of the sites considering purchasing a skin was a pioneer in the on-line poker market. You will find out more about that in the coming months I am sure.


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Skins of what site?. What is the major?. What are the other skins?.

Thanks.

lorinda
05-16-2004, 12:12 PM
Skins of what site?. What is the major?. What are the other skins?.

Well, it looks like a Pokeroo skin to me (Which makes sense as they were touting YPN too), I guess it's more accurate then to say that Pokeroo is also a YPN skin?

Can you assure us that Cyndie has nothing to do with this place, the software is fine, but her track record is far from that.

Thanks

Lori

lorinda
05-16-2004, 12:14 PM
and there never was a poker site operates at NUTZ POKEr - maybe nutzpoker ?

I believe it was Nutzz.com

I believe 100% this is a different operation, YPN has been around since late last year on a Beta level.
They blocked my password before I got to play a hand, presumably to stop me reporting what I saw.
(Which is odd, because what I saw seemed okay)

Lori

TheNutz
05-16-2004, 12:27 PM
NutzPoker is a part of "YourPokerNetwork". I'm the marketing director of NutzPoker so it's not in my best interest to discuss and/or promote other partner sites but you are free to do your research and find out who else is part of our network.

Replying to Lorinda's question about Pokeroo, yes it is also part of the network and has been the first partner site to hold the beta testing for YPN. As for Cyndie, She has nothing to do with NutzPoker as far as I know but if she knows someone in management in YPN, that I don't know. I do know PokerScene.com is one of the other 4 sites joining the network in the next few weeks and she may have sold the name rights of that name to them....not sure....it's best if you direct that question to Cyndie herself since I don't know and would not want to give you any incorrect information.

Regards,
Ryan Lanane
Marketing Director
NutzPoker.com

rusty JEDI
05-16-2004, 01:43 PM
This is not a flame post to Ryan L/Nutz poster. But if i was running a poker site i would do a better job of finding the marketing director/Personal relations man. I would want someone who is extremely knowledgeable in all aspects of the past and present online scene.


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This has nothing to do with ANY former owners of ANY poker site, I am the head of marketing for this site and personally know the owners who have the financial backing to make this site a huge success. The domain you maybe confused with could be GutsPoker which is part of 24HPoker and as far as I know, is still operating.


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24hr poker has nothing to do with gutspoker. Gutspoker has since become tigergaming.com

I also have a hard time believing that the head of marketing could be someone who didnt know about the previous site with the name so similar. If i was head of marketing i would certianly have warned my boss about this and encouraged a name change.



I do remember trying the pokeroo software a few months ago and thinking it wasnt too bad but was just a little too cartoony. The nicest thing was it had a miniview much like UB's.


rJ

Poker Jet
05-16-2004, 01:44 PM
Okay first off... Guts Poker is not part of the 24H network, they were absorbed into Tiger Poker, who also runs the room that RTG casinos use for live poker...

Nutzz is correct, but they went under by promising everyone and their uncle $50 free no dep.

YPN was setup by pokeroo to handle support issues...
Owned by the previous owner of PokerPot, Sam.

There you go ;-)

NotBannedYet
05-16-2004, 02:35 PM
Post deleted by Mat Sklansky

GrannyMae
05-16-2004, 02:42 PM
Sam used to fukc Mary

this thread has me completely confused. does sam=poker pot? and does this have anything to do with sam?


also, i heard that planet was switching to this new skin. is there any truth to that ryan? also, you are not either of the ryans that posted as ryan(xx),are you?


'splain pls


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jek187
05-16-2004, 02:53 PM
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does sam=poker pot? and does this have anything to do with sam?

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To the best of my knowledge, Sam was the owner of Poker Pot. Poker Pot closed down while you were on hiatus.

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you are not either of the ryans that posted as ryan(xx),are you?

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He's RyanL, not Ryan21.

Ryan21 is the racist troll.

BirthdayBoy
05-16-2004, 02:57 PM
No offense intended, but given the Choice poker result, what assurances can you give us that our money is safe at your skin?

goodguy_1
05-16-2004, 03:15 PM
er I think theNutz could be overwhelmed by some of these revelations /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

btw Nutz 24HourPoker-a site I'm playing this very second would not appreciate you falsely saying they have ever had anything to do with GutsPoker-that's libelous.

24hour Poker is a small site with good customer service and fast cashouts.80% of the players are swedish

dogmeat
05-16-2004, 03:20 PM
Learn to proof your copy -

GrannyMae
05-16-2004, 03:24 PM
To the best of my knowledge, Sam was the owner of Poker Pot. Poker Pot closed down while you were on hiatus.

oops.

did people get ripped off?

is this new site the same group of people and software that poker pot was? i know it is all new software, but it is that same group of skin owners and licensees?

as i said, i'm lost
(more than usual)

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GrannyMae
05-16-2004, 03:31 PM
I do not think two professional players such as the ones noted above would want to be affiliated with a bad network.

ryan,

you and i have gotten along fine, so i'm gonna give you a freebie here. considering you are the marketing director, i would take my advice.

your above quote was used many times with failing sites. most noteably the doyle/highland's relationship. doyle made good on that, but OJH don't have near the amount of money as doyle.

use the old man's name to promote, but don't set yourself up by inferring that nobody of his caliber would associate with a bad site/network.

is johnny still alive btw? better buy some life insurance on him if he is your celebrity endorser. he makes shapiro look like an infant.

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jek187
05-16-2004, 03:45 PM
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did people get ripped off?

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Once again, to the best of my knowledge, everyone at Poker Pot was paid up. They closed awhile before Big Bet Poker went down. Big Bet Poker does owe some people some money.

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is this new site the same group of people and software that poker pot was? i know it is all new software, but it is that same group of skin owners and licensees?

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Well, the banned spammer Chris Parsley, ooops, I mean PokerJet says that Sam is the owner. At this point you now know just about all I know. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable can shed some light on all of this.

Stew
05-16-2004, 03:56 PM
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To the best of my knowledge, Sam was the owner of Poker Pot. Poker Pot closed down while you were on hiatus.

oops.

did people get ripped off?

is this new site the same group of people and software that poker pot was? i know it is all new software, but it is that same group of skin owners and licensees?

as i said, i'm lost
(more than usual)

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If I recall correctly, noone lost money through PokerPot. In fact, I know they sent out an email well before they shut down warning folks to cashout their funds. I also recall they posted a similar warning either here and/or on RGP prior to closing!

GrannyMae
05-16-2004, 03:57 PM
Big Bet Poker does owe some people some money.


sheesh, i did not know this either.

ok, i will retreat and wait for ryan to clear all of this up. i can't imagine planet poker considering being an anchor site for that former group. however, maybe my sources were wrong about planet joining this network.

ryan?? your turn


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Stew
05-16-2004, 03:59 PM
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Big Bet Poker does owe some people some money.


sheesh, i did not know this either.

ok, i will retreat and wait for ryan to clear all of this up. i can't imagine planet poker considering being an anchor site for that former group. however, maybe my sources were wrong about planet joining this network.

ryan?? your turn


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No, meither neither and that would leave only one other possibility as to whom they are referring to.

GrannyMae
05-16-2004, 04:03 PM
No, meither neither and that would leave only one other possibility as to whom they are referring to.

delta?

both planet and delta have promised to dump their crappy dinosaur software for years, so maybe you are right.

http://bestanimations.com/Animals/Reptiles/Dinosaurs/Dinosaur-01.gif

HavanaBanana
05-16-2004, 04:12 PM
Planet is still betatesting new software, look at planetpoker2.com

I do not think Roy Cooke would have much business with RyanL/Nutzpoker, I know I would not.

ToT

TheNutz
05-16-2004, 04:22 PM
O.K. Everyone - Kind of alot of stuff hitting me all at once here, and some things I honestly didn't know about myself. I will however cover all questions.

"No offense intended, but given the Choice poker result, what assurances can you give us that our money is safe at your skin?"

I assure you the financial stability of this network is not in question. There are multiple investors with millions and millions of dollars in safe haven money to cover any type of processing delays etc.

That said, I will be honest. Your money truly is never guaranteed safe at any site. I suggest you make a min. deposit and play for a bit and wait to see how things pan out before allowing large amounts of money to pile up just like you would at any new site.

Try cashing out, see how quick the cashouts are. See if you have problems depositing. Minimize your risk by doing small buyins and large cashouts. turn your $50.00 buyin to $250.00 then cashout for $200.00. Next time cashout at $400.00, then $600.00, then $800.00, then $1,000.00 - so on...

"er I think theNutz could be overwhelmed by some of these revelations "

This is, quite simply put, and understatement. Prior to today I had no idea about some of these connections.

"btw Nutz 24HourPoker-a site I'm playing this very second would not appreciate you falsely saying they have ever had anything to do with GutsPoker-that's libelous."

My exact words were :

"BTW, after checking with the head of the network, we are not in any way affiliated with gutspoker (which is apparently still out there) and there never was a poker site operated on http://www.nutzpoker.com - Maybe the site you are thinking of used a different variation of the spelling?"

I do not see how this is libelous in any way, shape, or form?


"He's RyanL, not Ryan21.

Ryan21 is the racist troll. "

That is correct, I thought you knew that from a couple prior threads that went over this Granny?


"this thread has me completely confused. does sam=poker pot? and does this have anything to do with sam?"

Yes Sam owned Poker Pot (not Boyd's site) and was a skin of Big Bet Poker! I remember the posts when Poker Pot was closing down. They were courteous when they saw problems with the network they were on, and informed players ahead of time about the eventual network closing as soon as he was aware of the issues. Would an honest or dishonest busines person take this sort of action?

Did Big Bet e-mail it's players? No! Did Victoria's (can't remember full name) ? Hell no! They went on operating as usual... Whereas Sam had the integrity to say he was closing down until he could find new software.. He has in fact sold the domain and site to another person and has no ownership of that site any longer, but all his players were paid and given notice to get their funds out of the accounts as soon as possible. The one skin who did this, and this negatively effects this new network how exactly?


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Sam used to fukc Mary. So it's highly likely Mary is around this operation as more than just a skin owner. And I think we all know what happens once Mary gets her cancerous fingers into a site. "

This is a childish post, and that's an understatement. Sam is in his early thirties and Mary is nearly double his age from what I hear. Regardless it doesn't matter if they had, but they haven't even met in real life ever period.

On to Mary's involvment in the network, I ASSURE you the only involvement Mary will ever have is being a skin operator. As a skin operator you may have your reaons for not playing at her particular skin if you do not like her, but she is not an owner of the YPN network. I am not even sure if she is in fact opening up a skin or not, but if she is that is the extent of her involvement.

"Okay first off... Guts Poker is not part of the 24H network, they were absorbed into Tiger Poker, who also runs the room that RTG casinos use for live poker..."

My bad on this one ...

"I also have a hard time believing that the head of marketing could be someone who didnt know about the previous site with the name so similar. If i was head of marketing i would certianly have warned my boss about this and encouraged a name change. "

Believe me, I have played at about every site, every skin of evry network out there, and I think I have 100 + poker programs on my desktop sorted by the network they are on etc.. I do keep up with this, I have never ever ever heard of nutzz.com as a poker site. And I played at victorias site for christ sake!

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use the old man's name to promote, but don't set yourself up by inferring that nobody of his caliber would associate with a bad site/network.

is johnny still alive btw? better buy some life insurance on him if he is your celebrity endorser. he makes shapiro look like an infant."

I agree, this is very true Granny! And yeah he is still alive and kicking /images/graemlins/grin.gif

"Once again, to the best of my knowledge, everyone at Poker Pot was paid up. They closed awhile before Big Bet Poker went down. Big Bet Poker does owe some people some money."

Again, this confirms what I said. Sam is an honest and reputable business man who unlike Dutchy made good on things before hand when he SAW THEM coming up as problems.

"is this new site the same group of people and software that poker pot was? i know it is all new software, but it is that same group of skin owners and licensees?"

No, this is not the case. Would you want to be affiliated with a network that cost you alot of money in the past? And Sam is involved in YPN, but as head programmer he is not the owner of the network.

"ok, i will retreat and wait for ryan to clear all of this up. i can't imagine planet poker considering being an anchor site for that former group. however, maybe my sources were wrong about planet joining this network."

I can't confirm or deny that anyone running planet poker's software would be a possible skin operator. But if this was the case do you think the network has stability problems?

"Big Bet Poker does owe some people some money."

YES, Big Bet Poker DOES owe people money! Big Bet poker was the Party Poker of that network. The flagship site so to speak. Sam operated the skin Poker Pot, at which everyone was paid.


Regards,
Ryan Lanane
Marketing Director
NutzPoker.com

Stew
05-16-2004, 04:27 PM
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No, meither neither and that would leave only one other possibility as to whom they are referring to.

delta?

both planet and delta have promised to dump their crappy dinosaur software for years, so maybe you are right.

http://bestanimations.com/Animals/Reptiles/Dinosaurs/Dinosaur-01.gif

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That's what I was thinking, but then again since Caro is no longer working with Planet, maybe they are headed in a different direction.

TheNutz
05-16-2004, 04:32 PM
I just got done speaking with Sam, and he told me it was O.K. to post the truth, Sam is in fact the President of the YPN network, I only with held this for legal reasons.

gabyyyyy
05-16-2004, 04:46 PM
Looking at the whois information it shows your domain nutzpoker.com expires in september of this year. I think you need to extend your URL if you want people to think this wont be a short term venture.

Beach-Whale
05-16-2004, 04:50 PM
Of course they will extend it. I don't see how this would be any cause for concern.

Lori
05-16-2004, 04:51 PM
Well, nutzz existed, and MSS went 5 for 5 on a great prophecy.

Nutzz, Guts and stuff (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=inet&Number=151271&Forum=A ll_Forums&Words=nutzz&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=1 51271&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=1& newerval=3&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodypr ev=#Post151271)

Lori

TheNutz
05-16-2004, 05:03 PM
Lori, as an ACR skin - I have no doubts on their failure. I honestly haven't ever heard of them though.. I'm sure there are still a few card rooms out there I haven't hit! LOL

gabyyyy, I have been in the internet business for quite some time. The domain renewal process is anywhere from $7.00 - $15.00 per year nowadays whereas it was $100.00 per year when there was a monopoly. I have 40 - 50 domains still under my ownership, I never renew them for more then a year at a time but I have NO PLANS of letting them go /images/graemlins/grin.gif

HavannaBanana, I posted a public apology to you. There is not much more I can do, I was drunk off my ass one night and went on a rant - we all make mistakes (unfortunately) /images/graemlins/frown.gif If there's anything I can do to put this behind us please let me know, if not.. well... atleast I tried again.

P.S. I added my signature in home options, but it isn't showing up in my posts I make even when I check "add signature to this post" - Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?

Regards,
Ryan Lanane
Marketing Director
NutzPoker.com

Lori
05-16-2004, 05:04 PM
Some old quotes by Sam on this forum.

"Thank you for your comments Jimbo. I admit and agree with you that I'm an idiot for associating and communicating with people like you."

"Also, I'm not sure if your claim about pokerscene is accurate. I know Mary and have played poker with her for quite some time now. She has great ideas and most of these ideas are not to make her more money but to make online poker better for everyone"

"Mary,

I think you could write a book on poker ....."

Above are in THIS thread. (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=232252&page=&view=&sb=5&o =&fpart=1&vc=1)


Some Mary style free market research, dont say i didn't warn you (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=inet&Number=196792&Forum=f 14&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=196792&Search =true&where=bodysub&Name=933&daterange=1&newerval= 3&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1 96792)

"Mary from PokerScene talked to me about funds safety last year and that's when I started playing poker online on PokerStars where we met and became poker buddies. I was a newly born poker player and mary thought me how to play (REALLY) "

Mary taught the site owner to play.... (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=inet&Number=195369&Forum=f 14&Words=&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Main=195369&Search =true&where=bodysub&Name=933&daterange=1&newerval= 3&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post1 95369)


Lori

Lori
05-16-2004, 05:06 PM
P.S. I added my signature in home options, but it isn't showing up in my posts I make even when I check "add signature to this post" - Does anyone have any idea how to fix this?


Signatures were removed because of the weight of spam they carried.

Yours however is appropriate within the guidelines that are requested of you.

Lori

Pokeraddict
05-16-2004, 05:28 PM
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Big Bet Poker does owe some people some money.

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I am owed $60 from bigbet. For some reason when I cashed out my last $700 from there they shorted me on my last installment and never answered another email. When I hit my jackpot it took bigbet around a month to pay me, I hear twice as long to the big winner who had the losing hand. Bigbet was backed by Oddson/English Harbour a group that has been touted as reputable and liquid by had every excuse in the world when they owed me $8000. I cannot complain about losing my last $60 from bigbet.

As to Pokerpot they bailed 3 months or so before bigbet closed. They saw the writing on the wall. Bigbet was run very poorly and made many false promises, I only stayed for the fish pond and i got rake back. I think they intended ever since they closed to join pokeroo. They never had anything to do with the back end issues at bigbet, they were simply a skin.

Theodore Donald Kiravatsos
05-16-2004, 07:14 PM
Nuttz.com, not Nutzz.com was the poop-out site that didn't make it.

csuf_gambler
05-17-2004, 04:06 AM
mang this sh1t is way too long. some cliff note this sh1t

MicroBob
05-17-2004, 05:35 AM
i dont know diddly-squat about tiger, big-bet, nightorday, nutzz or nutz or a lot of other small sites.

i just play the "big 4-and-a-half".
i obviously dont get as much bonus-$$$ as i could...but i feel reasonably assured that my money is okay.

maybe i'm semi-delusional...but it sure seems my money is reasonable safe in Party, Empire, Stars, UB and Paradise (and neteller).

regarding the smaller sites...maybe i'm paranoid, but i've read enough stories here about cash-out problems (pokerspot, choice) that i pretty much dont know which ones can be trusted so i simply dont trust any of them.

the risk of not getting your money out compared with the small benefits of getting a deposit bonus (on a site with very few players) just strikes me as a -EV situation.

24hPOKER
07-09-2004, 11:44 AM
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This has nothing to do with ANY former owners of ANY poker site, I am the head of marketing for this site and personally know the owners who have the financial backing to make this site a huge success. The domain you maybe confused with could be GutsPoker which is part of 24hpoker and as far as I know, is still operating.

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Been a while since I checked this forum out. This old post is inaccurate. The poster probably has Gutspoker and Gutshot Poker confused. Gutshotpoker.co.uk is a live card room in London, a poker community online and a skin to 24hPOKER.

Another one of the skins to get into the 24hNETWORK is UNIBET.com, the bookie. Once that happens (Sep 1st is planned launch) I will inform you . Traffic will finally hit 24hPOKER I hope.

Best regards
Stefan Ostlind
Marketing Director
24hPOKER