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04-20-2002, 11:57 PM
Right now, I am a student and my health insurance is covered because I go to school. My question is how does a poker pro go about getting health insurance? Is this a big concern for all of your "pros"?


Thank you

Jamie

04-21-2002, 12:03 AM
I am sort of a poker pro or something maybe, but the point is I just graduated and I am getting my own health insurance. I just looked online and filled out an app. It wasn't too expensive, something like 80 a month for decent coverage, which is well worth it.

04-21-2002, 03:11 AM

04-21-2002, 09:09 AM

04-21-2002, 09:13 AM
How do college students get so clueless?


What do they teach them there?


Do they teach them where babies come from?


Then why not where health care comes from?


Do they teach them this abstract mumbo jumbo that "evolution" is where human beings come from?


Then why not teach them the more concrete mechanisms by which health care is produced and rationed?


Or does it make more sense that people evolved from apes, but medicine is a gift from God?


eLROY

04-21-2002, 09:38 AM
Really, your only concern is cuts and broken bones, which can actually heal. Just don't go rock climbing, and all the other stupid stuff students do.


Most of the other stuff, cancers and what not, medicine can't really cure anyway. That's one of the things young people don't get, is that just because you spend $150,000 on medical bills, doesn't mean you will be any better off. Healthcare ain't magic.


I haven't had "health insurance" in ten years. All the broken this and torn that and busted that, nose, eyes, and so on, I ran up about a zillion dollars on other people's bills (when I was in the health-insurance collective), and never once was one iota better off for it. (I remember once I waited all night in pain to go to the best doctor in NYC, and then ended up having to set the bone myself, after he charged me several hundred dollars!) So I quit, and haven't been to a doctor since.


So, anyway, the last thing I'm going to do now is subsidize some other idiot who runs off and spends $125 dollars every time he gets a runny nose. Or old people, or women or are prone to plumbing complications, I ain't with it.


A great deal of curable injuries - workplace, traffic - are covered by existing insurance anyway. If I get cancer, I'll just lie down. I fully expect to!


And if I break more bones than I can cover, or than my family and friends can cover, joke's on you. There comes a point where, if you don't want to pay for my healthcare, it's your responsibility not to support a bunch of whiney liberal politicians and trial lawyers who make it cost five times more than it ever needed to.


Do you know where managed care originally came from? It was originally spawned by some government price-fixing scheme on wages, that inserted the first insulation between people, and the cost of their healthcare.


eLROY

04-21-2002, 12:38 PM
It is sad that this issue is not seriously addressed so far as it is very important and a lot can go wrong even with insurance (e.g., you develop a pre-existing condition and your insurance company goes broke - now try getting new insurance). I'm in a time squeeze for two weeks so would you please post this again in a few weeks and I'll give it my full attention.

04-21-2002, 01:39 PM
I am eLROY. Little e big LROY. I took my name from the Jetsons because I am a little boy. I like to make funny jokes on the two plus two website. Some people are addicted to heroine, but I am addicted to posting. I am posting"head" I love the responses I get and the funnies I make. I post some of the funniest posts here and am famous. My mommy and daddy are so proud of my 2+2 accomp;lishments.

04-21-2002, 02:26 PM
You are funny.


And believe me, I am NOT proud to have so much time on my hands. It is a little pathetic, isn't it?


Just the same, socialism in health care costs me money, and I should be angry that so many idiots can't get a clue!


eLROY


P.S. "Little E, BIG lroy..." - almost sounds like the beginning to some king of fan song. Thanks for your support:)

04-21-2002, 04:53 PM
i thought that (one of the) origins of health insurance covered by workplace was that companies had a vested interest in having healthy workers. this was before hi-tech medicine, and when companies employed a lot of employees who did real stuff (ie, manipulated the environment).


also perhaps a vestige of feudalism / social contract.


brad

04-21-2002, 06:58 PM
There is alot of truth to eLROY's post. I would add that the best health insurance you can have is;


Exercise daily, eat a good diet, get regular sleep and sex, little or no drink and drugs, don't sweat the small stuff and have a life outside of poker.

04-21-2002, 07:05 PM
eLROY as much as I enjoy your skewed attitudes... I asked for a simple answer which I have yet to recieve.


Jamie

04-21-2002, 07:24 PM
Just like when rent is fixed, maintenace drops.


Or some peopel prefer to own company cars, rather than their own, for tax purposes.


So anyway, I think it may have been Truman, who fixed wages during some war or other, causing employers to raise wages in the form of health benefits, which deadened the feedback loop between healthcare consumers and the actual costs.


eLROY

04-21-2002, 07:29 PM
Blue Cross:


http://www.bcbs.com/


Google:


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=health+insurance


eLROY

04-22-2002, 01:40 AM
there were unions way before truman. but, no, i mean the theory that businesses pretty much owned workers and it was in the businesses best interest to keep them healthy. (of course this was way before advanced medicine, we're talking fixing mechanical things (broken bones, trauma, etc.)


also i know that germany had socialized medicine in the 1880's, and also that modern day corporations (i think) get their command and control structure from the prussian military model.


anyway, just about the origins of the coupling between two seemingly unrelated things (trading your personal time/work for stuff and health care (whole idea of insurance different topic) ).


by the way, originally only the wealthy even had doctors. as far as i know, medicine is the only area where some people feel that 'someone' owes them something that can easily exceed their (expected) lifetime worth (wages, everything).


brad

04-22-2002, 01:41 AM

04-22-2002, 01:45 PM
What happens when you get hit by a bus?


P.S. be careful crossing the street.

04-22-2002, 02:29 PM

04-28-2002, 10:36 PM
Some casinos have instituted a one dollar drop on some of the higher limit games. It goes into a fund and if you have a medical problem at the table they take care of it.


Remember to toke your dealers and doctors. If you are at the tables when someone goes to the hospital you get a free buffet.


Kind of like a bad heart-beat jackpot