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Raiser
05-10-2004, 10:50 PM
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif. CO posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO (poster) checks, <font color="CC3333">Button raises</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(6 players) </font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, UTG calls.

River: (12.75 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds, MP2 calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

Routine lay down on the river or is the pot big enough to call?

Nemesis
05-10-2004, 10:57 PM
gotta call that it's gonna be a bluff more than 1 out of 14 times i think.

bakku
05-10-2004, 10:58 PM
I don't think UTG would bluff into 3 players, I would fold.

Shalara
05-10-2004, 11:39 PM
I would call. Nearly 15 BB. Stranger things have happened--he might even have KT.

Nemesis
05-10-2004, 11:41 PM
he may be betting into you with less than it seems that he has though maybe he got 2 pair with that card or he could just be a crazy fool trying to push a low diamond out. I think your hand will be good 1 in 14/15 times. I would call this no question. A raise behind you would suck horribly though...

Raiser
05-11-2004, 09:53 AM
First off I need to say that I have a very hard time reading Nemesis' posts for some reason /images/graemlins/wink.gif

UTG had K /images/graemlins/club.gif4 /images/graemlins/club.gif, MP2 had 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, and I folded the winner.

I guess with 3 opponents calling all the way, I figured one of them would have to have a /images/graemlins/diamond.gif. I honestly thought about whether I would win 1 time in 14 and decided that I probably wouldn't.

Joe Tall
05-11-2004, 10:08 AM
You fold is going to be good. I folded a set in the EXACT same situation the other night playing 15/30. An EP player led out into 3 players when the 4th-suited hit. A raggy 2-pair won.

I can't imagine being good even 1-20 times.

Peace,
Joe Tall

chief444
05-11-2004, 10:46 AM
I would tend to agree. I don't even think it typically matters whether UTG is bluffing or not because there are two people left to act after our hero. If I was closing the action and it was just myself and UTG left I would normally call. Given the situation I doubt if you win more than necessary to make this +EV in the long run. This is a rare result, IMO.

ZootMurph
05-11-2004, 10:47 AM
Definite fold. 3 other players in the hand... what are the chances no one has a diamond? Not enough to make a call on the river, I think.

Additionally, it should help to see the call by MP2 after you, almost guaranteeing a diamond there.