Overcall all-in with QQ?

[pzhon]

UB 6 Player SNG (1st 70%, 2nd 30%)
Hand 11: Blinds 5-10

UTG has 155.
UTG+1 has 780.
CO has 2130.
<font color="blue">Hero</font> (Button) has 770.
SB has 1220.
BB has 945.

SB posts the small blind of 5.
BB in posts the big blind of 10.

<font color="blue">Hero:</font> Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif

Pre-flop:

UTG goes all-in for 155 (15xBB).
UTG+1 calls.
CO folds.
<font color="blue">Hero</font> with QQ...?

I don't recall exactly how UTG became short-stacked, but it wasn't on the previous hand. I think it was 3 hands before, so UTG's hand is not completely random. Nevertheless, moving in didn't indicate much strength to me.

I had no read on UTG+1, who called the all-in. I don't know why UTG+1 called rather than raised.

CO was a tricky, aggressive player, but didn't seem to be a maniac. CO raised several times preflop, though I'm not sure with what.

SB and BB seemed to be passive players, not particularly tricky. SB may be multi-tabling or otherwise distracted. I think SB folds by default. BB was the first player at the table, which in my experience usually indicates an above-average player.

Should I let this one go? Call? Min-raise? Commit myself to the pot? Move in?

Thanks in advance for your analysis.

[pzhon]

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UTG has 155.
UTG+1 has 780.
CO has 2130.
<font color="blue">Hero</font> (Button) has 770.
SB has 1220.
BB has 945.

SB posts the small blind of 5.
BB in posts the big blind of 10.
UTG goes all-in for 155 (15xBB).
UTG+1 calls.
CO folds.
<font color="blue">Hero</font> with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif...?

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I committed myself by raising the pot (155+480), the blinds folded, UTG+1 pushed for the remainder (135), and I called.

UTG had 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG+1 had A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.

Twodimes data for the main pot:
cards win <font color="blue">%win</font> lose %lose tie %tie <font color="blue">EV</font>
A/images/graemlins/diamond.gifA/images/graemlins/spade.gif 836242 <font color="blue">61.01</font> 529686 38.64 4826 0.35 <font color="blue">0.611</font>
Q/images/graemlins/spade.gifQ/images/graemlins/heart.gif 237013 <font color="blue">17.29</font> 1128915 82.36 4826 0.35 <font color="blue">0.174</font>
6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 292673 <font color="blue">21.35</font> 1073255 78.30 4826 0.35 <font color="blue">0.215</font>

It's interesting to me that in the 3-way pot, 65s does better than QQ.

Board: 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif T/images/graemlins/heart.gif 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.

Despite finding myself way behind, I'm not sure that my raise was wrong. I wanted to push others out of the pot to get to be heads-up against UTG with the added chips of UTG+1 thrown in. Of course, I wouldn't have minded if UTG+1 had called with a worse hand, too.

In UTG+1's shoes, when is it right to smooth-call, and when should UTG+1 raise? Whatever is right, what do people usually mean when they just call a short stack's all-in with several players left to act? Should I view UTG+1's call as dangerous?

[Al_Capone_Junior]

Looks like a desperation / frustration raise by UTG. For only 155, I'd call. UTG+2 probably realizes this is a desperation raise too, thus his flat call. See what the flop brings. It's early, you can still comeback if you wind up having to fold on the flop.

al

[JP2k1]

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Twodimes data for the main pot:
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
AA 836242 61.01 529686 38.64 4826 0.35 0.611
QQ 237013 17.29 1128915 82.36 4826 0.35 0.174
65 292673 21.35 1073255 78.30 4826 0.35 0.215

It's interesting to me that in the 3-way pot, 65s does better than QQ.


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You're probably aware of this, but the 56s does better than QQ in this particular 3-way pot because for the QQ to win, it will have to beat the aces, a hand which it is a 4-1 dog to. 56s does slightly better heads-up versus AA (76%-22% on twodimes), and thus is a slight favorite over QQ in this pot.

56s, incidentally, is the best hand to have in general if you have to be heads-up vs. AA.

[woodguy]

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In UTG+1's shoes, when is it right to smooth-call, and when should UTG+1 raise? Whatever is right, what do people usually mean when they just call a short stack's all-in with several players left to act? Should I view UTG+1's call as dangerous?

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IMO He has the only hand you would ever smooth call an all-in.
You are trying to bait another player to go over top of you.
When it works, its beautiful. (if you have the rockets)
Its this type of deception call that can triple or quadruple your stack in a MTT, or punt 2-3 players at one time in a SnG.
Regards,
woodguy