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AtlBrvs4Life
05-08-2004, 02:55 AM
Hey all, this is my first post here. I am new to online poker as I have only been playing since the beginning of April. Since then, I have made about $1000 playing single-table tournaments. I have tried about 7 multi table tournaments, and have had mixed results. The only times I finished in the money I got 11th and 27th. Anyways, I just lost a $30+$3 multi on Party and would like some opinions on the hand that was really my downfall.

At this point in the tourney, there were about 250 of 970 players left and my chip stack was about 1/2 of the avg chip stack. I moved in here because I was fairly certain I was up against Ax and I felt the pot was laying me good odds. I was right about his hand, but I am uncertain if this was the right move.

***** Hand History for Game 583197628 *****
150/300 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 3585794) - Sat May 08 02:25:49 EDT 2004
Table Multi-Table(14755) Table 25 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: AtlBrvs4Life (1890)
Seat 2: Sweet_B (2721)
Seat 3: lacourneuve (2974)
Seat 4: flopmeaces (1210)
Seat 5: LittleMitch (926)
Seat 6: VVuBanga (9360)
Seat 7: Rytan (550)
Seat 8: Mr_Chin2k4 (1500)
Seat 9: bee255 (2556)
Seat 10: MonStarCard (3943)
Rytan posts small blind (75)
Mr_Chin2k4 posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to AtlBrvs4Life [ 6s, 6c ]
bee255 folds.
MonStarCard folds.
AtlBrvs4Life calls (150)
Sweet_B folds.
lacourneuve folds.
flopmeaces folds.
LittleMitch raises (926) to 926
LittleMitch is all-In.
VVuBanga folds.
Rytan folds.
Mr_Chin2k4 folds.
AtlBrvs4Life calls (776)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 4d, 4s ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ts ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 7h ]
Creating Main Pot with $2077 with LittleMitch
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2077 |
Board: [ 8d 4d 4s Ts 7h ]
AtlBrvs4Life balance 964, lost 926 [ 6s 6c ] [ two pairs, sixes and fours -- Ts,6s,6c,4d,4s ]
Sweet_B balance 2721, didn't bet (folded)
lacourneuve balance 2974, didn't bet (folded)
flopmeaces balance 1210, didn't bet (folded)
LittleMitch balance 2077, bet 926, collected 2077, net +1151 [ Ah 8c ] [ two pairs, eights and fours -- Ah,8c,8d,4d,4s ]
VVuBanga balance 9360, didn't bet (folded)
Rytan balance 475, lost 75 (folded)
Mr_Chin2k4 balance 1350, lost 150 (folded)
bee255 balance 2556, didn't bet (folded)
MonStarCard balance 3943, didn't bet (folded)

RED_RAIN
05-08-2004, 03:28 AM
If you put him on Ax high or low you are like what 54% (I don't know the correct percent here) to win the hand if just heads up. So this is one he gets. So looking at your stack before this hand, you are investing a little over half your stuff on the 54%. If that's what you want do it, if it not, don't. I think depends on your tourney play. I don't think your call is horrible if you put him on Ax.

Mackas
05-08-2004, 11:50 AM
Not sure I would have called in the first place given that you're calling just under 10% of your stack to see the flop, presumably hoping to hit your trips (8 to 1). I'm not sure you have a big enough stack to start splashing around at all, at least not from an early enough position with seven players to act behind you. With the stack you had before this hand I would have thought the time to play was gone, and it was now time to tighten up and be patient, waiting for a decent hand to commit with and hopefully double through on.

That said, once you do call and he raises all in its not hard to put him on at least two overcards to your pair. So at this stage regardless of pot odds your looking at taking more or less a 50/50 shot at leaving yourself in serious trouble when if you folded you would still be able to see quite a few hand before ebing forced to make a stand (unless the blinds were due to go up shortly). I personally don't think it was time to gamble yet, which is what you are doing. Then again as the previous reply said if you know you are gambling and choose to do that well that's your choice.

Bozeman
05-08-2004, 12:11 PM
Because you are 60% against Ax high or low, you have to call. However, the fact that you put him on this hand and he happened to have it doesn't prove he couldn't have had a better hand. Still, you are a favorite, and getting odds, against his range of hands if he would do this with ~20% or more of his hands (or would slowplay many big pairs). On the other hand, limping with a small pp is usually a mistake at this point: you don't have enough chips to get big implied odds on flopping a set, so consider raising or folding instead.

and please post written summaries instead of hand histories,
Craig

AtlBrvs4Life
05-08-2004, 12:51 PM
Alright thanks guys. I guess the general consensus is that it was a bad idea to limp in with that hand to begin with, but the call wasn't horrible. I still have a lot to learn.