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Shalara
05-07-2004, 11:05 PM
Hand 1:

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Preflop: Shalara is UTG+2 with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, Shalara calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, Shalara calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Shalara bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Shalara bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, Shalara folds.

Final Pot: 6.25 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 5.25 BB, won by BB.</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: 1 BB, overbet by BB.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
No showdown. BB wins 6.25 BB. </font>

Hand 2:

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Preflop: Shalara is BB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Shalara checks.

Flop: (4 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Shalara bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
SB folds, Shalara checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

River: (4 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
Shalara checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 4 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 4 BB, between Shalara, MP1 and MP2.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by MP2 (4 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Shalara shows Tc Qs (two pair, kings and queens).
MP1 shows Ad Td (one pair, kings).
MP2 shows Jh Qh (two pair, kings and queens).
Outcome: MP2 wins 4 BB. </font>

Hand 3:

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Preflop: Shalara is UTG+1 with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Shalara raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls $0.75 (All-In), BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(4 players, 1 all-in) </font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">Shalara bets</font>, CO calls, BB folds.

Turn: (5 BB) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Shalara bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (7 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players, 1 all-in) </font>
<font color="CC3333">Shalara bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 4 BB, between SB, Shalara and CO.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Shalara (4 BB).</font>
<font color="#990066">Pot 2: 5 BB, between Shalara and CO.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Shalara (5 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
SB shows Qc 9d (one pair, queens).
Shalara shows Tc Td (straight, ace high).
CO shows 5c As (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Shalara wins 9 BB. </font>

Hand 4:

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Preflop: Shalara is MP2 with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, Shalara calls, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Shalara calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Shalara checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls, Shalara calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(4 players) </font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Shalara checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, SB folds, UTG+1 calls, Shalara calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="blue">(3 players) </font>
UTG+1 checks, Shalara checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">Shalara raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">Shalara caps</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 18.50 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 18.50 BB, between Shalara and CO.</font> &gt; <font color="white">Pot won by Shalara (18.50 BB).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="white">
Shalara shows 9d 8d (straight, jack high).
CO shows Jd Js (three of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Shalara wins 18.50 BB. </font>

This one is shameful. Really. I'm embarrassed to post it, but I need help. The raiser was a definite TA too. I know I should *not* have called the flop, but I couldn't do the math near fast enough for even a ballpark figure. Can anyone help me figure what the odds on a runner runner flush or straight at once are? I don't want to make the same mistake again.

illunious
05-20-2004, 02:26 AM
#1, I raise Preflop. After raising preflop, if BB checkraises me on the turn I'd fold too.

#2, I can't decide... I would probably bet the turn again and fold to a raise.

#3, Horrible flop, perhaps it is weak but I have been checking this. Great turn and river.

#4, seems like an easy flop fold to me.. the pot does not justify going for a runner runner flush/str8. The turn and river are course completely fine.