Vazh
05-05-2004, 05:27 PM
I was looking at this hand and initially thought calling down after the turn raise was ok, but thinking about it more I think it was very wrong. The reason is that I think I'm behind and drawing to 2 outs 99% of the time.
Here's why: Unless opponent is a total LAG, which he is not, there's not a huge range of hands he'd raise/cap with. Let's say AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK, AQs. I'm ahead of QQ, JJ and AQs. But I 3-bet pf, and bet out on the flop and turn, so he must respect my hand at least a little. If he has AA, QQ, JJ, or AQs I would argue that he's afraid I have AK, and there's no way he makes this turn raise. He doesn't appear to be afraid of getting 3-bet, so he's pretty much got to have the goods.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls.
Flop: (10.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls.
River: (10.25 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 12.25 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 12.25 BB, between MP1 and Hero.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by MP1 (12.25 BB).</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP1 shows Kc Ad (three of a kind, kings).
Hero shows Ah As (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: MP1 wins 12.25 BB. </font>
Here's why: Unless opponent is a total LAG, which he is not, there's not a huge range of hands he'd raise/cap with. Let's say AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK, AQs. I'm ahead of QQ, JJ and AQs. But I 3-bet pf, and bet out on the flop and turn, so he must respect my hand at least a little. If he has AA, QQ, JJ, or AQs I would argue that he's afraid I have AK, and there's no way he makes this turn raise. He doesn't appear to be afraid of getting 3-bet, so he's pretty much got to have the goods.
Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (8 handed)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, Hero calls.
Flop: (10.50 SB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls.
River: (10.25 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="blue">(2 players) </font>
<font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.
Final Pot: 12.25 BB
<font color="#990066">Main Pot: 12.25 BB, between MP1 and Hero.</font> > <font color="white">Pot won by MP1 (12.25 BB).</font>
Results in white below: <font color="white">
MP1 shows Kc Ad (three of a kind, kings).
Hero shows Ah As (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: MP1 wins 12.25 BB. </font>