teemu_69
05-03-2004, 03:53 PM
Hi everyone, this is my first post in this forum so if any of the formatting or wording is odd please cut me some slack. About two weeks ago I started playing in a $1/$2 NL ring game at an apartment near me. They rake $1 for every $15 in the pot up to $4 max. About half the players are clearly better than me but by playing tight I turned a profit last time I came so I thought I'd return again. Here's the hand that I obviously screwed up:
I have $344 and am currently in MP in a 11 person game.
PRE FLOP: I am dealt 77.
-I figure I'll see the flop and if I don't hit anything I'll fold.
-I don't remember the exact poisition of all the players who called, but there were two limpers before me, I checked, one limper after, the SB calls, BB checks. $10 in the pot.
FLOP: 3-3-3
-I think to myself: "If there is any bet I'm folding, I don't want to run into a pair higher than mine or someone playing a three..."
-Three checks before me, I check, checks good behind me.
TURN: 7 (board - 333/7)
-I think to myself: "There is one card in the deck that is beating me now, and none of these jokers has it. I'll bet at it now and either get a caller from an overpair or win it right here..."
-Three check to me, I bet $10 (the pot), fold behind me, SB calls, everyone else folds. ***The SB has consistently played the tightest pre-flop of anyone at the table. I also think he is better than me, but I also can't imagine him playing any type of 3 given what I've seen so far.***
RIVER: Q (Board - 333/7/Q)
-I think for a second "he has the 3 and I should check if he gives me the chance" but I convince myself that he is so tight he couldn't have the 3, could he? I put him on a pp higher than 77 but lower than QQ-AA because I think he would have raised already if that were the case
-SB checks, I bet $30 (pot again), he asks me to count my stack which I do and he raises $50.
-I think "he wanted me count my stack as a read as to how strong my hand is, people at this game have done this to me before and have acted as if they knew my hand, so I'm guessing that this is a similar maneuver which further pushed me to think he doesn't have the 3."
-I think about the $50 raise for a little then say "I put him all i--- oh wait is that wad of money good?" (he had a large wad of cash which I hadn't noticed. He only had about $80 in chips left at this point which I was ready to make him play with, but when I noticed the wad I hesitated, I was told it was good and not to worry about almost raising more than I thought I could) I raise $50 more.
-***At this point he proceeds to count his money, rub his forehead, sigh some, all the tells that = MONSTER. I think he knows that I know this and is giving me an act. He's too good a player to really be giving off the tells I tihnk he is, and I tihnk he pegs me as a player good enough to read them as MONSTER and then fold if he reraises.***
-He reraises me all in ($202 more), I think for a second to myself: Would he have played 3x from the small blind? No. Would he have played QQ like he did? No. What does he have? 88-JJ. Am I winning? Yes. So I call. He shows me 35o. I go home losing all my money.
So yeah. I have some ideas about this hand and have spent many hours thinking about it and how I could have played it better. I was wondering what you thought my bet plays could have been throughout the hand? Please offer any critisim or advice I'll appreciate any input.
Thanks,
Greg
I have $344 and am currently in MP in a 11 person game.
PRE FLOP: I am dealt 77.
-I figure I'll see the flop and if I don't hit anything I'll fold.
-I don't remember the exact poisition of all the players who called, but there were two limpers before me, I checked, one limper after, the SB calls, BB checks. $10 in the pot.
FLOP: 3-3-3
-I think to myself: "If there is any bet I'm folding, I don't want to run into a pair higher than mine or someone playing a three..."
-Three checks before me, I check, checks good behind me.
TURN: 7 (board - 333/7)
-I think to myself: "There is one card in the deck that is beating me now, and none of these jokers has it. I'll bet at it now and either get a caller from an overpair or win it right here..."
-Three check to me, I bet $10 (the pot), fold behind me, SB calls, everyone else folds. ***The SB has consistently played the tightest pre-flop of anyone at the table. I also think he is better than me, but I also can't imagine him playing any type of 3 given what I've seen so far.***
RIVER: Q (Board - 333/7/Q)
-I think for a second "he has the 3 and I should check if he gives me the chance" but I convince myself that he is so tight he couldn't have the 3, could he? I put him on a pp higher than 77 but lower than QQ-AA because I think he would have raised already if that were the case
-SB checks, I bet $30 (pot again), he asks me to count my stack which I do and he raises $50.
-I think "he wanted me count my stack as a read as to how strong my hand is, people at this game have done this to me before and have acted as if they knew my hand, so I'm guessing that this is a similar maneuver which further pushed me to think he doesn't have the 3."
-I think about the $50 raise for a little then say "I put him all i--- oh wait is that wad of money good?" (he had a large wad of cash which I hadn't noticed. He only had about $80 in chips left at this point which I was ready to make him play with, but when I noticed the wad I hesitated, I was told it was good and not to worry about almost raising more than I thought I could) I raise $50 more.
-***At this point he proceeds to count his money, rub his forehead, sigh some, all the tells that = MONSTER. I think he knows that I know this and is giving me an act. He's too good a player to really be giving off the tells I tihnk he is, and I tihnk he pegs me as a player good enough to read them as MONSTER and then fold if he reraises.***
-He reraises me all in ($202 more), I think for a second to myself: Would he have played 3x from the small blind? No. Would he have played QQ like he did? No. What does he have? 88-JJ. Am I winning? Yes. So I call. He shows me 35o. I go home losing all my money.
So yeah. I have some ideas about this hand and have spent many hours thinking about it and how I could have played it better. I was wondering what you thought my bet plays could have been throughout the hand? Please offer any critisim or advice I'll appreciate any input.
Thanks,
Greg