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Dieter01

04-24-2004, 09:50 PM

Got such great response on my last couple of hands that I am posting a few more. I was very much in doubt on some of these, so I am sure I screwed up. Hoping that by posting them it gives a beginner a chance to learn something though!

Hand 1

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (6 players) 
Hero checks, BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (7 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players) 
Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 raises, MP3 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (13 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players) 
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19 BB
Main Pot: 19 BB, between Hero and UTG+1. > Pot won by UTG+1 (19 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Ah 5h (flush, ace high).
UTG+1 shows Qc Kc (full house, queens full of kings).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 19 BB. 

My thoughts:
This was a difficult hand for me. I think I can justify my flop raise with a top pair and a nut flush draw. But I know I could very well be up against two pair with that kind of a flop... The Q sucks... My thought was to show strength, but it kind of blew up in my face. Should have probably check/called (I think thats the way to go even though I could be drawing dead on my flush). I get my flush, but not sure if its good. If the flop had been different and with a lower pair on the table I think I need to take that chance and try to get as much money as possible in there. So in that case the check-raise would have been OK. In this case though I think I should have bet and if he raises only call.

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Hand 2:

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Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero raises, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players) 
Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players) 
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO checks.

River: (7 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players) 
Hero checks, MP1 bets, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero raises, MP1 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB
Main Pot: 13 BB, between MP1 and Hero. > Pot won by MP1 (13 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Ah Js (two pair, jacks and twos).
MP1 shows Kc Ac (flush, ace high).
Outcome: MP1 wins 13 BB. 

My thoughts:
Pre-flop raise was one that I don't often do, and especially not from this position. But occationally I will try to mix up my raising hands. Was hoping the flop didn't hit anyone so I bet my two overcards. When 3 people call I was ready to check/fold the turn but instead get a free card. I think there is a decent chance I am ahead when the J rivers, even with the flush out there. I check , pretty sure someone will attempt a steal, and then I raise. Unfortunately I wasn't the only one who improved on the free card.

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Hand 3 (changed tables):

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif. Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero (poster) checks, Button calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (5.50 SB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (5 players) 
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, Button calls, BB folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players) 
UTG+2 bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, Button folds, UTG+2 3-bets, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

River: (11.75 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players) 
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB
Main Pot: 15.75 BB, between Hero and UTG+2. > Pot won by UTG+2 (15.75 BB).

Results in white below: 
UTG+2 shows Ts 9s (flush, king high).
Hero shows Kd Jc (two pair, kings and jacks).
Outcome: UTG+2 wins 15.75 BB. 

My thoughts:
I need to see where I am at on the flop so I bet with second pair. Whish I had capped the turn, not many cards I would put him on that has me beat here. I don't think it is very likely he has AA, KK, QQ, 55 or JJ without betting pre-flop/flop. On the river, since UTG+2 has been betting pretty strongly on the turn I don't put him on a flush draw. Not many people 3-bet their draws heads up... So I feel I can bet when he checks the river. Don't like his raise but have to call, even now it is dawning on me I might be up against a better hand. As you can see he actually had a straight on the turn that improved to a flush, so he had me beat the whole time. Didn't see it coming.

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Hand 4:

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB raises, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (6 players) 
SB bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, MP3 folds, Button calls, SB calls, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.03 (All-In).

Turn: (13.03 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players, 1 all-in) 
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (13.03 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players, 1 all-in) 
SB bets, Hero calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 16.03 BB
Main Pot: 11.62 BB, between Hero, Button, SB and UTG+1. > Pot won by UTG+1 (11.62 BB).
Pot 2: 4.41 BB, between Hero, Button and SB. > Pot won by SB (4.41 BB).

Results in white below: 
SB shows Ac Ad (two pair, aces and nines).
UTG+1 shows 9d 8h (three of a kind, nines).
Hero shows Ks Jd (two pair, jacks and nines).
Button shows Ts Kd (one pair, nines).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins 11.62 BB. SB wins 4.41 BB. 

My thoughts:
After the flop I consider my options to be raise or fold. Which one? The rest of the hand is OK I think.

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Hand 5:

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, Hero raises, MP3 calls, SB folds.

Flop: (5 SB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players) 
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero raises, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players) 
Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players) 
Hero bets, MP3 raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.50 BB
Main Pot: 10.50 BB, between Hero and MP3. > Pot won by MP3 (10.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows 9h Ac (two pair, nines and sixes).
MP3 shows 3c 5d (straight, seven high).
Outcome: MP3 wins 10.50 BB. 

My thoughts:
I like the pre-flop raise with only one caller and BB to act behind me, but whish I had bet the flop to with high pair and ace kicker. Instead I risked giving a free card. I was lucky though, and my check-raise worked. Should have bet the turn to. If he had raised I would have called him down. I was really curious to see what the heck he had, did not put him on his hand at all...

Nottom

04-24-2004, 10:19 PM

Hand 1: 1st 3 streets are fine. I might bet out on the flop, but the checkraise isn't awful.

On the river I prefer to bet and call a raise because you don't want to be 3-bet and you don't want it to get checked through. The presence of the 3rd player and your position relative to the raiser makes betting even better since you don't want to force the BB to face 2 bets after a checkraise.

Hand 2: I don't like the preflop raise, too many limpers already in and you have a marginal holding out of position. If the hand were suited it would be fine.

On the flop you have the reason you don't raise with AJo from the SB. You have nothing out of position on a ragged flop, I think checking is best with the intention of check-raising if you get a LP bet.

I hate the river check-raise also. Bet and call the raise, when this gets 3-bet there is almost no chance your hand is good.

Hand 3: I'd probably raise my post with this hand since its likely the best after a couple limpers and I get a chance to buy the button and knock out the blinds for only 1 bet.

Everything is fine except the river bet. You should check-call there and expect to lose.

Hand 4: Your probably better off folding this preflop from that early with 2 players already in, its shaping up to be a big multiway pot with a hand that would rather not be a part of that. My general thoughts about KJo is that I don't feel comfortable raising it, I don't want to be playing it. Sometimes I'll limp after a few/bunch of limpers in LP looking to flop something big, but I think for the most part thats a good way to play the hand.

I think your post flop play of the hand is fine.

Hand 5: I don't really like the pre-flop raise too much. When playing from the blinds in a SH pot its often to your advantage to keep the pot small unless your hand is pretty good. Raising random Aces is just gonna get your in trouble. A lot of flops are gonna be rags and you can just take them down with a flop bet in the small pot, but by raising you tie you opponents to the pot making that more difficult.

Same thing with the check raise, you really would prefer to just win the pot there becasue you hand is very vulnerable and there are a lot of potentially scary turn cards that can come. The checkraise just serves to tie your opponent to the pot.

I don't understand the turn check at all. Just bet with what is likely the best hand.